Thread: If matter cant be created or destroyed, where did all this stuff come from?

I'll largely stay away from this argument, seeing as how I know very little of quantum physics and all that bullshit. I will say this, though: The thought that something has "always existed" is simply unacceptable to me. Everything happens in a cyclical manner; things begin, end, then start over. Why, then, would the universe not do the same, if everything within the universe does it?

Originally Posted by Photolysis

Oh and I love the "if you can't explain it I AM AUTOMATICALLY RIGHT!!!!!111" bit as well.

Oh, right...kind of like the atheist argument "if you can't prove it I AM AUTOMATICALLY RIGHT!!!!!111...1". The similarities are striking, aren't they?

It's true that just because someone can't refute the existence of something doesn't mean it must exist.

But on the other side of the spectrum, just because someone can't prove the existence of something doesn't mean it cannot exist.

Therefore, there is no harm in faith. Nor is there harm in a lack of faith.

Anyone who's too stupid to see this deserves to be anally raped by a muscle man with a cock the width of a tree branch. I'm dead fucking serious, too. What's so hard to understand about "just because you can't see it doesn't mean it isn't there"? I thought it was pretty damn simple, but apparently not. ...And isn't that sort of thing a principle scientists have been operating on for a long time? To me, it sounds pretty counter-intuitive for any scientist to say "durr wel i cant c it so it not exzist durr hurr hurr". What the fuck, Chuck?

So kudos to those in here who are actually trying to come up with hypotheses as to how the universe came into being, instead of relentlessly attacking people's beliefs out of mere pettiness. Those who are doing the latter...well, just three words: Tree branch cock.

EDIT: Then there's always the possibility that human beings are simply not intelligent enough to comprehend whatever it is that brought the universe into existence. Which seems like a very likely scenario to me, considering the fact that human stupidities such as war still exist. Yeah. A species that kills its own kind on a daily basis, understand the operating principles of the universe? Not in this eternity.