Bull? or reality, what do you think

**tkdyo** · 10-26-2009 12:08 AM

nano tech is obviously a double edge sword...fire was at one time too and now we harness it with little complication.

**dostoevskyblue** · 10-26-2009 01:11 AM

next time at the bookswap,i'll check that out mini,loved the andromeda strain

**O'nus** · 10-26-2009 01:25 AM

OMG! If Metal Gear says its true, it must be!

(Actually it is)

+ http://prola.aps.org/abstract/PRL/v90/i11/e118102
+ http://www.nature.com/nnano/journal/...7.104_BX1.html
+ http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...c806661c110d00

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**Photolysis** · 10-26-2009 02:42 AM

To me, the concept of biological immortality is not really so much a question of "if", but "when?".

Even if the technology takes a hundred years to be developed, with the rapid progress in other areas of medicine, I'm pretty confident I'll be around to see it.

**Alric** · 10-26-2009 02:54 AM

Yea serious, why would someone want to die? If time froze today, I could easily go ten thousand years, and still find worth while things to do. And if you consider all the advancement in that time, there will always been new and fun things to do. So why die and miss out?

When you get to the point your brain physically can not hold any more knowledge, and we can no longer back it up, and you start forgetting a great deal of important information, then its time to die. But until that point, I say keep on going.

**guitarboy** · 10-26-2009 02:59 AM

Erm I don't want to be immortal in my 60s or 70s, They better make me 21 again.

**tkdyo** · 10-26-2009 03:53 AM

Originally Posted by Alric

When you get to the point your brain physically can not hold any more knowledge, and we can no longer back it up, and you start forgetting a great deal of important information, then its time to die. But until that point, I say keep on going.

I say...time to install more memory

**grasshoppa** · 10-26-2009 04:12 AM

Originally Posted by Alric

When you get to the point your brain physically can not hold any more knowledge, and we can no longer back it up, and you start forgetting a great deal of important information, then its time to die. But until that point, I say keep on going.

You think that is possible?

**Black_Eagle** · 10-26-2009 04:22 AM

Originally Posted by grasshoppa

You think that is possible?

Why wouldn't it be? Memories deteriorate overtime and your brain is constantly shoveling out unused information.

**grasshoppa** · 10-26-2009 05:41 AM

Originally Posted by Black_Eagle

Why wouldn't it be? Memories deteriorate overtime and your brain is constantly shoveling out unused information.

But I think your brain would be able to determine IMPORTANT information over that one time you got drunk with that chick...You know? I don't think the memory or brain storage would ever be a problem.

**Alric** · 10-26-2009 07:22 AM

I don't think its a big problem. Though if you can live ten thousand years, I suppose its possible. Hopefully you can keep upgrading your memory and stuff, and improve it. And maybe humans will clone them self with giant brains. Its always possible they might run into a limit however.

**Vincanity** · 10-26-2009 08:57 PM

I'm just thinking what would happen if terrorists got hold of this..
I think that day will be doomsday.

**Vincanity** · 10-26-2009 09:05 PM

I think even though we achieve this we would all still "die" in a way.
Pretty people wont exist anymore. Music would be gone except those that just do it to be heard. Sports wont be on Tv anymore. Even if we wanted to play we wouldn't be able to enjoy it, we wouldn't be able to say "dang, hes good.."
Diamonds wouldnt have value cause we would be able to replicate them from our houses, almost all the pleasures in life would be gone.
The only things left being love and maybe comedy...
Maybe nanotech IS the apocalypse

**tkdyo** · 10-27-2009 02:18 AM

I dont perceive most of those lvling things as a bad thing. no matter how well you advance someone, people are still different. I cant play a whole orchastra by myself, but I would love to be able to play what I like. And people still need to think up new music. Even if its not hard for anyone to play, it sounds good..much like modern pop toda but sounding much more extravagant

and as far as sports go...even if everyone is on the same plane physically and mentally...I would imagine most sports staying the same in scoring but with much more beautiful complicated plays and inventive ways of scoring to get around the solid defenses.

**Sisyphus50** · 10-27-2009 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

Die of old age.

People don't die of 'old age'. You die because something gives out. Your heart, your lungs, your liver, your kidneys, your brain. These are the cogs that keep turning to keep you alive. Any of them fail, you're toast.

People don't just die for no reason. There is always a cause.

**Alric** · 10-27-2009 07:35 PM

That is silly, there will still be music and sports, and beautiful things. There is no reason any of that would end.

There are a lot of people in the world who don't believe in an afterlife. Personally, I have always thought if a person doesn't believe in an afterlife, they should become a scientist and try to find a way to live forever. If you believe its all over when you die and you rot in the ground, then you should be hoping with everything you got, that you can make yourself live forever.

Realistically though, its probably not possible to 'live forever'. Eventually something is going to get you, even if its the entire galaxy crashing into another galaxy.

**lucidreamsavy** · 10-31-2009 01:31 AM

This topic seems very controversial, in that is it a GOOD thing?

I say yes and no. It would be great to stop diseases altogether and certain things, but changing your appearance? No way. If everyone is pretty, then you'd think the tiniest thing about you is ugly. People that used to be beautiful would just be average, because everyone would be. Also, you should be able to work towards things just the same as now, if it were effortless, what's the point? I also don't think that I'd like to live super long, but that's me, a 16 year old saying that, who knows what I'll think when I'm 80.

**Sornaensis** · 10-31-2009 02:07 AM

And you back up your claims that this would be as you say based upon...?

**Sisyphus50** · 10-31-2009 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by lucidreamsavy

This topic seems very controversial, in that is it a GOOD thing?

I say yes and no. It would be great to stop diseases altogether and certain things, but changing your appearance? No way. If everyone is pretty, then you'd think the tiniest thing about you is ugly. People that used to be beautiful would just be average, because everyone would be. Also, you should be able to work towards things just the same as now, if it were effortless, what's the point? I also don't think that I'd like to live super long, but that's me, a 16 year old saying that, who knows what I'll think when I'm 80.

Individual roses are beautiful. Does this mean carefully sculpted rose gardens are less beautiful because all roses are beautiful? Beauty is not about scarcity. It's mostly about symmetry. 'Pretty faces' follow more symmetrical patterns than 'ugly' faces.

**lucidreamsavy** · 10-31-2009 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by Alextanium

Individual roses are beautiful. Does this mean carefully sculpted rose gardens are less beautiful because all roses are beautiful? Beauty is not about scarcity. It's mostly about symmetry. 'Pretty faces' follow more symmetrical patterns than 'ugly' faces.

touche

**Maria92** · 10-31-2009 05:22 PM

I would love to see this kind of technology advance. But you'd have to provide some sort of "kill code," just in case anyone should want to die, for whatever reason.

Perhaps a better (and more cost-effective) way to go about eternal youth is through eugenics. Guess what causes aging? Your genes. Why does your body suddenly not spring back like it used to? Why do your bones ache and your memory is fuzzy? It's not parts wearing out; it's a gradual, systematic shutdown of the body, programmed into our DNA. So...turn off the genes that do this (we've already identified a few), and you're good to go. This still leaves you vulnerable, however, to cancer, disease, and being hit by a bus. However, combine this with the nanobot technology, and you're looking at super humans.

**O'nus** · 10-31-2009 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by Mario92

I would love to see this kind of technology advance. But you'd have to provide some sort of "kill code," just in case anyone should want to die, for whatever reason.

And if a terrorist gets a hold of that...?

LIQUID!

BROTHAAAAAHHH!

Metal Gear???!!?!

Note; this stuff is real already.

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**khh** · 10-31-2009 08:19 PM

"Immortality"? Can't happen. Sure, our life spans can be expanded, but sooner or later something's gonna get you.

**C-Fonz** · 10-31-2009 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by Vincanity

Yeah but this got me thinking
If this all becomes possible what will happen to us all. We would be able to change the color of our eyes, be able to change our phisical features and tone our bodies using these robots.
Imagine a world were everyone is beautiful, everyone can run as fast as usain bolt. Everyone can jump higher than Michael jordan..
Show bizz wouldnt exist anymore because stars would just be as rich as the next guy, kobe bryant and all them would stop playing because people would be better than them, models wont exist because everyone is prettier than they are.
pretty fucked up if you ask me.

Good, maybe humans will finally get the fuck over themselves.

I would love to be disease free, but I would hate to be immortal. Every story I have even read or heard about concerning immortals involves them wanting to die.