Thread: Pirates vs. Ninjas

But Pirates get scurvy!

Those scurvy shyster bastards!

That pirate talk website is awesome though, everyone should talk like that everyday.

Yarrrrg me harty!

The Pirates are massing to put down the ninja threat.



Too big to post:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/killbyte/3881.../in/set-112543/

http://www.tampagov.net/about_Tampa/featur...arilla%2008.jpg

http://www.tampagov.net/about_Tampa/featur...arilla%2009.jpg

http://www.tampagov.net/about_Tampa/featur...arilla%2004.jpg

http://www.tampagov.net/about_Tampa/featur...arilla%2001.jpg

http://www.tampagov.net/about_Tampa/featur...arilla%2015.jpg

And MORE.

Gasparilla 2006

EDIT: BTW, the official "Talk Like A Pirate Day" is September 19.

no way man Ninjas rule.

for 2 reasons.

1. when they kill you, you dont know who did it.

2.ninjas don't have scurbies


grass hopper has learned!

Okay here is a way we can settle this. Ninja Pirates are the best, namely Chris The Ninja Pirate.


http://www.weebl.jolt.co.uk/yarr.htm

And if you do not know who weebl and bob are you are a sad sad person. They are closley linked to White Ninja. http://www.whiteninjacomics.com/



this is awesome because I actually drew it in paint okay : (

HAHAHA ninjas rule

and i have proof

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hmmmm...

well.. i have tried long enough... just know that this was a screenshot from google fight: ninja vs Pirate... and the left column is ninja... so... they have won

owned

Lmfao!


Yyyeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaauuuuuuuuh.

Pirates vs. Ninja is a debate that will go on forever.

Pirates - pirate ships, cannons, booty

Ninjas - Stealth, swords, shurikens

We need a combo

This might help.

Originally posted by ledzeppelin


owned

The pirate is just pretending like he doesn't see! His killer parrot is hiding in the bushes, waiting to strike!

Originally posted by AlternateReality+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(AlternateReality)</div>

We need a combo

This might help.[/b]

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Okay here is a way we can settle this. Ninja Pirates are the best, namely Chris The Ninja Pirate.

http://www.weebl.jolt.co.uk/yarr.htm

Originally posted by Neruo


The pirate is just pretending like he doesn't see! His killer parrot is hiding in the bushes, waiting to strike!

as you can see there are no bushes to hide in.

Originally posted by ledzeppelin


Ahem, no I'm afraid you're in the wrong. You see pirates are stupid theives who sail. Ninja's have superior intellect and their swordplay is deadlier. period.

This is the kind of stupid arguments ninja lovers put up with. I don't care what any of you say, Pirates are way cooler than ninjas no matter what you say or do.

True Story:
On a website called Jinx.com, there is a sweet shirt you can buy that states: Pirates are way cool than ninjas (which they are) and the pirate is giving the ninja the finger. There was no stupid ninja shirt, because the website made there descision that Pirates are way cooler. The website were satisfied, untill all of a sudden, there were tons of idiot ninja lovers who couldn't face the truth: PIRATES ARE WAY COOLER THAN NINJAS. So many losers E-Mailed Jinx that they had to make this stupid shirt (http://www.jinx.com/scripts/details....&productID=513) Since I am a pirate, along with Flotsam and Faolan, I was furious. I don't understand why you ninjaa lovers can't get it through your head, PIRATES ARE WAY COOLER THAN NINJAS.

All the cool pirates can support me on this one by getting the original shirt:
(http://www.jinx.com/scripts/details....&productID=357)
Read the caption under the shirt, it states that the website chose awsome pirates, over stupid ninjas.

okay you have not stated why pirates are cooler, you have merely said you think pirates are cooler.
It is a story of a site who thinks pirates's are better, there is probably a similar story except, it's a site that likes ninja's, and the battie boy pirates complained.
The only thing Pirates have better than Ninja's is the way they talk.

Ninja's definetly have the advantage on land. They never tend to fight unless they know every nook and crany of the area they battle in; the best to use any wallss, pillars, or other random objects for shields or weapons. They also have incredibly strong weaponry, all sword are hand made by a loving metal artist. A Ninja also has at least 5 other weapons on his or her person, be them smoke bombs, shurikens, daggers, a long pole, or even the deadly Ninjitsu magic. Their magic is another thing to recon, they can disappear, walk on tree tops and fly with it! Ninja's also have had years of specialized training, making them some of the most deadly men alive. They can be silent, and have mastered the ability to counter dozens of other fighting styles, while Pirates usually don't study anything butthe basic';s and hope that numbers overwhelm. Also, most Ninja's tend to be of asian desent, a pople which on average is smaller than the average Pirate, therefore making them harder to hit.

Pirates, on the other hand, have many specialized abilities of their own. They always travel in groups, about 3 Pirates per one Ninja. They also wear very flamboient clothing, which tends to whip aroudn in the wind being a bit to big for their person. This makes the actual shape of their bodies hard to disern, and may confuse a distracted foe with a flowing sleeve. Pirates also are the superior fighters on water, their mighty Sea Leg abilities keep them upright in even the most dangerious of storms. They can use the sea and the boat itself for advantage. Pirates may not have the best weaponry, but they have a large amount of it. They also use firearms, something Ninja's refuse to use, and ave large cannons. Most medium sized fleshy meat bags cannot stand a direct cannon fire. Pirates also seem to become a kind of Drunken Master when under the influence of Rum, which may confuse the Ninja and make him deend for an attack that never comes. And, we musn't forget that Priates are the chosen of the FSM, so they have holy might behind them.

In a battle between the two, I think a Pirate would come out on top for the simple fact of a Ninja would be forced to battle on his boat, which a Pirate can use as a weapon itself, as well as having to walk on the sea.[/b]

Okay this guy hit the spot on most ideas. However, whether it was in a town, in a wide open plain, or on a boat, a Ninja would always win. "Why?" I hear you ask, lets take a closer look...

In a town, a Pirate sees a Ninja and takes aim (of course, he wouldn't have really seen him, because the Ninja is so stealthy, but we have to be a little leaniant for these Pirates right?). The Ninja has been sitting there, silently following them ever since they came ashore.
A shot is fired from the Pirates gun, and his fellows all draw their pistols and cutlasses.
A Pirate falls dead, the Ninja has throwin a "ninja star". While they are looking at their fallen comrad, another falls as a black shadow darts past. The ninja has struck again, this time with his sword.
The Ninja finishs anyone left standing with more "ninja stars".

A wide open plain? simple.
A Pirate and Ninja see each other in the desert. The pirate draws his weapon, the Ninja chucks some "ninja stars". Even if the pirate gets a few shots off, the Ninja could easily dodge them due to his superior agility. Of course, the Ninja would have spotted the Pirate long before the Pirate spotted him - As the Ninja is always aware of his surroundings.

On a boat? okay, this is a little more tricky, how many pirates are we talking? 1? 5? 10? 20?
Of course, there is always going to only be ONE Ninja, The odds are against him. Yet he will always win.

Lets start on the deck. The ninja would have slayen a number of Pirates before they have noticed people were dying and discovered where he was hiding.
Ducking into a cabin in the boat, and maybe killing a few unaware people inside, the Ninja can kill each Pirate one by one as they enter the room.
Note: Cannons are useless at short range, do not even think of using this as an argument. The Ninja could easily move before the cannon is shot, and it would take even 5 pirates too long to re-aim it.

We all know Pirates have a considerably shocking shot with a gun aswell, they are not trained to 'shoot to kill', they just shoot. Ninja's are trained to kill. That is their purpose, if they weren't effeciant at it, there would be no reason for their existance.


Okay, now, Ninja's also have super sexy black robes and hoods. Now, I could care less for the way Pirates dress, it just doesn't appeal to me. It looks like some Homosexual has gotten loose in his mum's wardrobe. (I'm not attacking homosexuals, don't take that personally.)
Pirates, booty... ? So? Ninja's get paid to kill. Killing is just a bonus for Pirates. What Ninja's get paid for each kill is probably the same as what is in a single loot for a Pirates, and Pirates have to split it up amoungst the crew aswell.

Fact: Ninja's are much cooler than pirates.

lets make a new movie:

It's already out.

http://nvp.kavefish.net/nvp1.htm

Okay, let me start over, I still think pirates are way cooler than ninjas (because they are) but that doesn't mean I hate ninjas. The thing is, a lot of you ninja lovers take pirates on the wrong way. The steriotype image of a pirate, is a drunken idiot who can't fight. Pirates are drunk a lot, but not always, and the can fight. Most ships that got taken by pirates, would not want to fight them, because they'd know they would loose. The thing that pisses me off a lot, is that you ninja people think that a ninja could kill a pirate. They could on land mabey, but no way on a ship. I'm not talking about all the pirates on the ship against one ninja, the ninja would die instantly. I'm talking about 1 on 1. People think that a ninja could sneek up a ship and kill all the pirates. Those people are wrong. Sure the ninja may be able to sneak up and kill a pirate, mabey, but you think the pirates wouldn't notice? "But the ninjas are too stealthy!" NO, they're not. Pirates know their ship like the back of their hand. The ninja could try to run away, and climb up the sails and ropes, but so could the Pirates. They're trained to do that. Then the pirate would just shoot the ninja. People have lots of arguments against this point, but I'll list the main two:
-The Pirate only has one shot
-The ninja is too stealthy and fast to get hit
First of all, the pirates didn't carry one pistol, they would carry three or more. Plus they were good shooters. They wouldn't carry a pistol if they didn't know how to use it. Second of all "The ninja is to stealthy and"-NO, he is NOT. Ninjas are fast, but they can't dodge bullets! So thats one way of killing the ninja. What if the Pirate only carried one for some reason and missed? The ninja would not automaticly win. The Pirate would. Pirates CAN use a sword, and very well. The ninja is probably trained also, ninjas are great sword fighters. The thing is, the ninja is evenly matched. Many of you would dissagree, but Pirates are amazing swordsmen. The most anoying thing that a ninja lover would say is, a ninja could sneak up on a ship and kill all the sleeping Pirates. Well first of all, there is a pirate on night watch, if for some reason there wasn't, yeah a ninja could sneak up and kill some pirates. That doesn't mean the pirates wouldn't notice. The pirates would awake by a yell or scream, and the ninja would be taken down immesiatly. But the thing is, a Pirate could do the same thing to a base of ninjas. Yeah the pirate wouldn't kill all of them, but he could get just as much as the ninja.
Ninjas are wusses though, they catch a man off guard and kill him. "NOOO! Ninjas are supposed to do that! They use stealth and speed." EXACTLY, the person wouldn't even get a fair fight. Honestly, ninjas are pussies. Pirates though, yell and charge at the peson. They give the man a fair fight, and then kill them. If the pirates were way out numbered, and lost (which they probbably wouldn't, exept for the pussy ninjas, the ninjas would loose) then they would exept it. When blackbeard (A real pirate, not made up) lost and died, he congragulated the man who killed him.

Pirate are better than ninjas and they always will be.

The only reason Ninjas exist is to kill.
They are not there for an even fight, they are there to get the job done, and that is it. They do not question why, how, or when. They are extremly loyal to their master.

A Pirate would not win on a boat. Ninjas do not always wear black robes etc. Chances are, if he had a target on a ship, he would join as a crew member, work out how everything works, and then strike his target. I don't have any doubts that a ninja could find, or make a hidding place on quite a large ship.

No, I don't think a pirate would notice a Ninja sneaking up on him. Why? Because Ninja's are stealthy. That was what they do. That is how they kill. They are totally aware of everything. I have no doubt that a Ninja could be overwhelmed in numbers, anyone could. But there is no way a pirate could win against a Ninja one on one.

So pirates have guns, so? Ninja's have their 'ninja stars'. With the ninja's accuracy, they're just as lethal. There are people alive today who can throw pins so hard penetrate thick glass windows. Now tell me that won't kill.
It is possible to dodge bullets, not in the sense that once fired, you can move out of it's way, but the ninja would constantly be moving, never letting the pirate get a good aim to shoot him. Once the Ninja is behind something, or while the pirate is temporarialy out of action (reloading gun or what not), he will make an attack - throwing a star, or something similar that never lets the pirate get a good shot.

The fact Ninja's sneak up on people doesn't make them pussy. To me it shows skill. Do you know how unbelievibly hard, and how much training you would have to go through to become a Ninja? That is dedication, that is more dedication than anyone has ever put into getting good grades at school, more dedication than trying to get a girl into bed. More dedication than anyone of us will ever know.

I like Pirates. I like the fact they were seen as ruthless scavangers, and love the way they talk. I'm just a Ninja guy, I like they way they dress, the fact they are so stealthy, their weapons, and their morals.

There is no winning. Succumb to the simple fact that is; Ninjas are better than pirates.

Pssht. A ninja SO couldn't pose as a pirate. Have you ever seen a Japanese-speaking man who could do a decent pirate accent? They'd SO know who he was and have him off the plank with a few bits of lead in his back to boot in > 1 minute.


EDIT: Plus, if the ninja was dressed as a pirate, the wooden leg would inhibit his super-ninja agility, so he'd be fighting on even ground with the pirates. Since the pirates would outnumber him, he'd be SO screwed.

Man, this is just funny. You said exactly what I said ninja lovers say. Okay, so the ninja is moving around a lot. So would the Pirate. It is the pirates ship, and they're trained to climb the ropes, and sails, and to get around on a ship. I acknowlage that ninjas are very good at climbing, probably better than pirates, but not on a pirates own ship. So even though the ninja could as you said "Dodge Bullets" (Just as I said you ninja lovers would) the Pirate knows his ship better, so he could just as easily dodge the trowing stars or needles. You can't say a needle or a trowing star is as fast as a bullet, it's just not. They are very fast, but not bullet speed. The pirate would have very well accuracy with his gun, just as well as a ninja would with a throwing star. The pirate wouldn't reload unless he absolutely had to. The pirate would most likely be carring three pistols. He would shoot one, then instead of reload, just simply take out another and shoot. Thus the ninja would be dead. So if you think a ninja would win against a pirate on his own ship, your absolutely wrong.

There was one thing that really made me think if you were kidding or actually serious. You said the ninja would "Join the crew". Two reasons why this would NEVER work. 1. If the ninja was going to join the pirate's crew as the actual crew was forming, like any other real meber would do, before the ship was even ready to sail or anything, the other pirates know who's a futuer pirate and who's a ninja. Even though you might think a ninja is very well with disquises, it's just not going to happen. The pirates would probbably ask the ninja to leave (Actually giving the ninja a fair fight, and some dignity. To bad ninjas don't do that.) If he tried to attack, the pirates would kill him. 2. If the ninja tried to join the crew, after it was a real official crew, like a new member would, they would simply deny it and like I said before, ask him to leave. If the ninja somehow sneaked aboard the Pirate ship and dressed up as one, do you think the Pirates wouldn't recognize him? Pirates know each other like they are brothers. The ninja wouldn't stand a chance.

Again, this is just an other stupid argument ninja lovers put up because they can't face the truth.

Originally posted by freefalling
It's already out.

http://nvp.kavefish.net/nvp1.htm

Dude thats excelent!

Ninjas obviously won

Originally posted by Flinte
Man, this is just funny. You said exactly what I said ninja lovers say. Okay, so the ninja is moving around a lot. So would the Pirate. It is the pirates ship, and they're trained to climb the ropes, and sails, and to get around on a ship. I acknowlage that ninjas are very good at climbing, probably better than pirates, but not on a pirates own ship. So even though the ninja could as you said "Dodge Bullets" (Just as I said you ninja lovers would) the Pirate knows his ship better, so he could just as easily dodge the trowing stars or needles. You can't say a needle or a trowing star is as fast as a bullet, it's just not. They are very fast, but not bullet speed. The pirate would have very well accuracy with his gun, just as well as a ninja would with a throwing star. The pirate wouldn't reload unless he absolutely had to. The pirate would most likely be carring three pistols. He would shoot one, then instead of reload, just simply take out another and shoot. Thus the ninja would be dead. So if you think a ninja would win against a pirate on his own ship, your absolutely wrong.

There was one thing that really made me think if you were kidding or actually serious. You said the ninja would "Join the crew". Two reasons why this would NEVER work. 1. If the ninja was going to join the pirate's crew as the actual crew was forming, like any other real meber would do, before the ship was even ready to sail or anything, the other pirates know who's a futuer pirate and who's a ninja. Even though you might think a ninja is very well with disquises, it's just not going to happen. The pirates would probbably ask the ninja to leave (Actually giving the ninja a fair fight, and some dignity. To bad ninjas don't do that.) If he tried to attack, the pirates would kill him. 2. If the ninja tried to join the crew, after it was a real official crew, like a new member would, they would simply deny it and like I said before, ask him to leave. If the ninja somehow sneaked aboard the Pirate ship and dressed up as one, do you think the Pirates wouldn't recognize him? Pirates know each other like they are brothers. The ninja wouldn't stand a chance.

Again, this is just an other stupid argument ninja lovers put up because they can't face the truth.

Okay Tsen - Ninja's are not confined to being of asian decent okay? That is just where Ninja's orginated.

So what if you said you knew exactly what I would say? That's like saying you are stupid for telling me the answer is 4 when I ask "What is 2 times 2?" You can't do that, it's saying I'm stupid for giving the correct answer.

Okay, do not take the 'Ninja will become a crew member" literally. I basically meant, he would have sussed out the ship before he planned to fight on it, (by means of blueprints, other people who've been on board, and going on himself for any reason.). Ninja's do not engage unless they have to or are well prepared.
The fact the it's the pirates own ship means nothing. A Ninja is always aware of his surrondings. He is trained for this. There is nothing special about knowing a ship either. You can see everything about it, atleast on top. And a Ninja probably wouldn't follow him inside a cabin unless he knew about the insides.

Yes I did say bullets can be dodged, did you read it properly?
This is not uncommen, even the most skilled gunsman will miss some shots when their target is moving at a decent speed, so it is no suprise that a pirate would not easily hit a trained ninja, there is also the factor of wind, and movement about the boat aswell. Don't tell me a pirate will be used to this either, because a pirate would not have thought about this and be unaware, he would've simply fallen to the idea he made a poor shot. Okay so he has three pistols, that's not very many shots. If a Ninja was hiding behind a mast, he could easily fling his hand around and throw a star at the pirate.
Pirates are not so fast, sure they could probably dodge one or two stars. And as I stated before, knowing their ship means nothing, especially to a Ninja who would've scouted around earlier, most likely.

Most ninjas carry a small arsinal of weapons, including smoke bombs. Obviously, this is a great advantage in killing someone.

Pirates don't have to be better fighters to be cooler than Ninjas. But the fact is, Ninjas are trained to kill. A Pirate is not. A Ninja will always win in a fight. Exceptions would be a poorly trained Ninja. And in that case we would not admit to him even being a Ninja.

Ninjas study, how many Pirates study? Ninjas study their weapons, their opponents, their surroundings. Everything. I'm not actually sure about Pirates in this kind of case, but I think it would be far to assume a Ninja's intellect is far greater than a Pirates. I don't mean, look at for awhile, and plan shit. I'm talking about sitting down for days reading, watching, thinking, and doing.
Ninja's do not strike with their weapons to hurt or wound, they kill. Every strike made by a Ninja is with the intention to kill. They have studied the most effeciant ways of doing this, and earnt their title as "killers". Ninja's are, assassins with more skill.

Also, yes, Pirates are great swordsmen, however, I would be inclined to believe a pirates sword would break after making solid contact with a Ninja's blade. Swords are also the Ninjas main weapon, it would've been the one weapon he has trained with his whole life as a Ninja, Therfore I am also inclined to believe Ninja's a far greater swordsmen.


this argument is so serious now, it is not fun : (

Originally posted by ledzeppilin
Dude thats excelent!

Ninjas obviously won

I never actually watched it, do you know how big the movie is? and what format?

Originally posted by freefalling


I never actually watched it, do you know how big the movie is? and what format?

Its about 20mins, It uses macromedia flash player

It could be shorter I don't know go watch it

Do you seriously think that knowing the ship means nothing? I don't think you understand what I'm getting at. There is absolutely NO way a ninja knows his surroundings (On the pirates own ship) better than a pirate. You said the ninja is trained to do that. Yeah ninjas are. But the pirate has to know every part of the ship. The pirate would be better at climbing the ropes (On his own ship) than a ninja would.

You also said "But the fact is, ninjas are trained to kill." Did you think Pirates wern't? Pirates don't just steal tresure from other ships. They are trained to kill as much of the other ships crew as they need to untill the other ship surrenders. If the other ships crew does not surrender, then the pirates kill everyone on the ship. Pirates are trained to kill.

I don't know if you're just saying the ninja would win on a ship just because you think ninjas are cooler. Beleive me, I know a ninja could kill a pirate just about anywhere else. If the ninja gave the pirate some didgnity and at least let the pirate try, he'd put up a good fight, but the ninja would win.

Seriously, I think you're taking on Pirates the wrong way. They are fast at climbing sails (very fast) and the can easly manuver around the the ship. Better than a ninja could because the pirate has to know these thing. You will probably say a ninja has to also, because he does, but he just won't be able to get around as well as a pirate on a ship.

I have a question about the wind you were talking about. Did you mean that would affect the bullet or the ship? It would affect the ship but not the bullet. Another question about the ship. Were you joking about the ship moving? You said that a pirate would not take that into consideration as a ninja would. I don't think you realize it, but you just helped me prove another point. Pirates will not freak out when the ship moves, giving the ninja the advantage. That would just give the pirate the advantage. Pirates know theese thing and are trained (Better than a ninja would be on ship) to handle it. Ninjas are not, though it wouldn't matter to a ninja that much.

You said ninjas are named as killers, which they are. So are Pirates. But to an other ship that sees Pirates, instead os killers, the pirates other nickname would simply be, "Good god... MAN THE SAILS, FULL SPEED AHEAD!! PIRATES!!" With that, the ships crew would be sent off running scrambling to raise the sails.

So at least you know that I accept that a ninja could kill a pirate just about anywhere else. You've just got to accept that a Pirate would win on a ship.

I don't mean for this to really get that serious, I'm just doing this because I'm kind of bored.
And as always
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Ninjas. Why? Because my little kitty (with the big pointy teeth and claws) says so.

And there's this:
http://www.flashplayer.com/animation/ozero...asepisode1.html
(proof that ninjas can speak in another accent of their choosing... oh, and the guy in the wheelchair, he's a ninja, too! Only a ninja can beat a ninja.)

(And on this site I also have enjoyed the clips: Rise of the Mushroom Kingdom, Surface, and many others)
-Amé