LD Induction Tech in 2018

[Dreamzilla]

It's been at least a few years since I have looked into any LD induction tech, so I'm curious about how things have advanced. Instead of trying to wade through all the mess to find out for myself, I figured it could be worth asking here, since there are likely to be at least some DV forum users who closely follow such things. What are the best devices either currently or soon to be available on the public market, and how effective are they? How close are we now to achieving +99% induction rate via such a device? How long do you think it will take before +99% is achieved?

[Oreo]

I haven't been following the technology scene very closely. As far as I know, technology relating to lucid dreaming hasn't developed much. The Remee and NovaDreamer were released over a few years ago and I don't think any other masks have been marketed since then. The most promising news I have heard was the study where lucid dreams could be induced with electric stimulation at 40hz. (You can read more about that here: https://www.livescience.com/45520-br...id-dreams.html ). That was also a few years ago though and I haven't seen anyone try to bring a brain zapper to market yet. The electric stimulation on its own has shown a 77% success rate, which is really incredible for artificially induced lucid dreaming. If you were able to combine this with mindfulness and other lucid dreaming techniques, I imagine that percentage could be much higher. I really want to see a consumer device based on electric stimulation but it has been years now without any news on that.

[MisakaMikoto]

There are two kickstarter devices that are going to be shipped quite soon First one is iWinks's Aurora which works on the same basis that Stephen LaBerge's own lucid dreaming induction device did. It is a headband that detects whether you're in a dream (REM phase) and flashes setup by you lights color and pattern to help you become lucid. This kind of device combined with WBTB n' MILD gives highest lucidity success rate possible according to LaBerge Spoiler for example way to do it: Before hitting the bed, you turn on device, tell yourself "Next time I see pink light flashes (example light cue you setup in device) I will remember to do reality check" Then you fall asleep, once you are in a dream, device detects it, and starts flashing lights, you notice in dream the light cue, and instantly remember that you had to do reality check when that cue shows up (thanks to above MILD prospective memory mantra). Then you become lucid and do reality check. Or you can just skip reality check, but I always make sure through reality check that its really a dream. Second is one that works the way you mentioned in OP, The Luciding's LucidCatcher. It detects rem phase, same way as aurora but instead of lights, it zaps your brain (cerebral cortex) with safe? Alternating Current of 40 Hz It might be able to cause lucidity but there's no confirmation beyond one study that a lot of people called biased, so i'm skeptical about its working. And I don't really like idea of zapping my brain with electricity. I don't own Aurora or any device for lucid induction though, so you won't get firsthand experience from me Also, both of these devices are supposed to be shipping 2018 February - March, so we might get some firsthand experiences posted around here. Both are on kickstarter and got their websites if you're looking for them.

[slash112]

And I don't really like idea of zapping my brain with electricity. I'd actually be quite happy with it. I feel that in the future, devices will communicate with our brains through electrical impulses (this will be massive for dream technology), so I've already come to terms with the idea of getting my brain zapped. I actually gotta check out that LucidCatcher.

[lucidbunnie]

I would second looking into iWinks's Aurora and Luciding's LucidCatcher, both are on the pricey side though. I heard plenty of complaints about LucidCatcher being delivered in unhygienic and unsafe conditions to testers. I'm not too sure where they are with the device right now. Aurora is still on pre-order and launch seems like it'll come late this year. I had pre-ordered iBand+ and it's supposed to ship mid this year. I'll have to use it to be sure how effective it is. Also I'd suggest to forgo the idea of almost guaranteed lucid dreams. There is no such device in the foreseeable future.

[Dreamzilla]

Thanks for the replies. I've been hoping that breakthroughs/improvements in tech like brain machine interface, VR, AI, etc, will lead to better LD induction tech. Guess I'll check back in a few more years.