Thread: No Caffeine, Now What?

Just sleep less, and try to get used to tihs, since you do the other stuff, shouldnt be that problem. And btw are you more than like 20 years, because if you are under that age it is usually normal to sleep more, and when you grow a little older you could become normal. Other suggestion would be polyphasic sleep schedule.

Im not a fan of saying my age on the internet, however i can say that i know with quiete some certainty its not my age. It seems to come and go in cycles. Sometimes, 8 hours is enough for a while. Other times i need 14 every night. Explain to me what polyphasic is please.

Originally Posted by Shamrox

Im not a fan of saying my age on the internet, however i can say that i know with quiete some certainty its not my age. It seems to come and go in cycles. Sometimes, 8 hours is enough for a while. Other times i need 14 every night. Explain to me what polyphasic is please.

Alternitive sleep schedule in which you sleep less - like 4 hours a day. Check it on the internet, or in the other topics here. The most succsesfull schedules are "everymen sleep schedule" and "uberman sleep schedule", if they are cool whit your lifestyle you can give em a try.

I'm back to a schedule of full-on polyphasic sleep. About 2 weeks in to the new schedule. Got off to a good start as I began by first increasing my number of naps from the usual 1 to 2 then 3 and 4. Within a week I was at about 3:30 hrs core sleep at night and 4 thirty-minute naps, close to my goal of 2:30 at night plus 4 short naps. Early on I had an extremely nice nap, woke up feeling euphoric. Not just happy, or relaxed, but completely warm and content. Like there couldn't possibly be any worries in the world. Very nice. Also, very high ratio of lucid dreams in those early days. Much more of a feeling of "putting myself to sleep", over and over. Sometimes I just barely would drift off then wake up, so instead of napping 30 minutes it could be as little as 10.

More recently I got off track. Wasn't feeling well, ended up not setting an alarm or shutting one off without resetting and slept 6 hrs at night. Getting back on track has taken a few days.

As before I'm not consuming any caffeine. Only the slightest amount, a few sips of tea. Haven't felt that tired, except for the couple days where I got off track. I find the hardest part isn't waking up from my core sleep at 2am or so, it's waking up after my 5:30am nap. Could get harder as the darkness of winter rolls in. Feel like poly-sleep is both something I want to do and *have* to do right now, given my current level of commitments. If I want to do any writing at all, it's going to have to be right now, in the dead of night.

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Up at 2:10 this morning from core sleep. Strange feeling to be walking to work while everyone else is stumbling drunk out of the bars, headed home to sleep. Like swimming upstream. No matter though, just need to follow my own rhythm.

Up at 1:10am this morning, so right on schedule in that way.... But yesterday my 5am nap started at 4am and lasted nearly until 7am, so *way* too long. This first nap of the day is just going to get harder as it gets light later, though I'm pretending the season hasn't changed by wearing shorts still.

I feel decent at the moment. Awake at the edges, maybe a little tired below the surface. Even though I've got my office way lit-up with a dozen hanging lights, I can still tell that it's dark out there in the world beyond. I can feel it. It's loud out there, too. Another partying night at the bars. No matter. Headphones on. Band of Horses on the playlist. No worries.

I can't believe no one has mentioned this -- apples. A single apple has more energy than a cup of coffee. Or you could drink apple juice.

Woke up at 6:30 this morning. I had set a couple alarms set but I must have turned them off without even thinking. Bad news. I think I need some kind of secondary thing to get me up. Maybe something good that I want to eat or drink (I doubt an apple would work but tks for the suggestion Zelgius!). I have one of those outlet timers, maybe I can hook up a lamp that shines brightly in my face at 1am, but that seems a little too harsh. At any rate I'll try to keep napping throughout the day even though I way overslept and maybe I can get right back on track tomorrow. I don't even fell more rested for having slept all night. Sigh.

Was even more off track yesterday. Some stresses in my personal life had me sleeping even more; suppose there are worse reactions to stress than oversleeping but its hard enough to adapt to this schedule when feeling relaxed. At any rate I'm back to getting up on time, up at 1:10am this morning. Walk in to office I felt fine, just a hint of tiredness. Funny thing is I somehow feel more tired coming off polyphasic than I do while on it. City relatively quiet this morning. Thoughts seem extra loud at this time of night. Anyone seen The Informant? Mostly forgettable movie, but the main character, Matt Demon, has this interior monologue going that gets played from time to time. Just random, everyday stuff. Fairly dumb stuff. Felt like I was having that kind of train of thought this morning, and so loud that it might as well have been broadcast. Hum.... Maybe that's what's happening right now. Am I writing this or just thinking it.....?

Well at this point I don't really have a schedule. I'm not sleeping at night in any regular way. Was up this morning just after 2am. Didn't feel great but managed to stay awake. Not even sure it was an alarm that woke me. Basically my sleep schedule is broken. That may not be totally bad. I'm still napping at least twice during the day, and I haven't had any major issues with getting to sleep. The hardest part is getting my body to accept my decision to wake up as final. Once it does that, even if I'm a still a little tired, I feel much more relaxed.

Schedule still is no schedule. Napping whenever I can, sleeping at night sometimes 6 full hours, sometimes just naps straight through. Looks like that will be the case tonight.

I'm getting used to the new flow of life. With regular sleep there are days. They begin and they end. You start fresh every day, are tired by the end. Even with a single, refresher nap this is basically true. Now my days have no beginning, they have no end. They just kind of..... flow.

Right now I feel like I'm in my own grove, somewhat apart from the world. I intersect with the world in the usual way, friends, coworkers, fellow students, but then I'm also on my own wave. Up when no one else I know is up, sleeping when everyone I know is awake.

Wake times after core sleep the last 3 days: 2am, 5am, 3am. Not setting any alarms. Napping at least twice per day, but sometimes only twice. May be that I am moving very slowly and erratically towards more naps and less core sleep, but without any rigid system or path.

Fascinating. I'm very interested in altering my sleeping schedule to see how it affects awareness.

I feel like I have to experience what you've written.

Hey ClouD it's I'd say its definitely worth trying to go poly , though if you have any insomnia issues I would be really careful. Fortunately that's never been a big issue for me.

I still have no real established pattern to my sleeping. I've been down to as few as just one nap lately, though today I suspect I'll take at least two. I'm noticing that the more I try to hack my sleep the more I seem to "understand" how my body works, and in particular the tricks it plays. I often wake up at 3am or so, and even though I feel rested, I end up going back to sleep anyway. Even though I am almost always happier if I get up, like I did today, and even though I *know* this, and can tell myself it, somehow I don't seem to know it in that moment. I'm more aware too of my body's cycles, and how I have windows of opportunity to nap and if I miss those I tend to wake back up, even without a nap, though not feeling as good as when I nap. Also, I tend to "slump" at about once a day, usually in the early evening. This is different from being sleepy, it's like a heavy wave of tiredness that lasts for about 5 to 10 minutes. I can never actually nap during this time: it's like a whole nother thing.

Dreams have been more integrated with my life, or at least I'm noticing that more. I can be thinking about a problem just before sleeping and be pretty sure that it will figure into my dreams somehow.