Thread: Do you meditate?

I meditate from time to time, though I haven't been able to lately because of the demands of my job. It is very benificial though. When I am home I will find a spot in the woods and sit listening to the sounds of nature around me.

What kind of time frame are we generally talking about?

I meditated for the first time last night in my bed. I won't say much except that it worked out fine and when I was walking through the forest (because the method I was using recommends that you walk through a forest) I basically and litterally walked into sleep. The crazy thing is that I knew I was falling asleep. Try it, it is benificial and I'll be doing it again tonight for a second time.

When mediating, you should sit crosslegged in order not to fall asleep. Before I mediate, I preform the Progressive Muscle Relaxation technique (basically, you lie down and individually tense every muscle in your body, then relax that muscle). Then, sit down and mediate. Some common ones are counting breaths, inhaling 7 seconds and exhaling 7 seconds, affirmations (i.e. "RE" inhaling, "LAX exhaling either verbally or mentally), or imaging yourself walking through a forest, feeling all the senses, and finding a guide that will tell you your subconscious thoughts.

When done mediating, don't just open your eyes. Slowly close your mediatiation and open your eyes slowly.

i guess the closest i get to meditation is when i try to wild

same here. the only time i get relative silence in my house is at night and by then i'm too tired to try anything other than a wild.

Meditation is a really open-ended thing, and you'll be surprised when you find out that we all do it! I think that if you dont practice it much then you'll just force yourself to do it sometimes.

The people of some religions like to call it 'prayer'.

Have you ever been watching the tele/reading a book and found that you've tuned out and been thinking deeply about something, or have been just sitting then staring?

Thats really what meditation is. Also, before going to bed if you do this then you can set yourself up for a really quick entry into Deep Sleep, instead of going to bed while very awake and tossing around all night, not quite getting enough deep sleep and waking up more tired than when you went to bed!

i do meditate but not that often

I used to meditate every day...now i don't have that much time!

But it really helps get rid of stress.

Also, because of the intensive relaxation, i found that my tolerance to pain is bigger...because when you are tense when you expect pain, the pain is greater.

This is a pretty cool topic. I have tried meditating before, but had no clue what I was doing. I just imagined that I was nowhere. Tried to shut myself out from the rest of the world. I was, of course, unsuccesfull. Hopefully with some techniques you guys listed and will list in the future I should be able to do so...

I will also yahoo to find some good techiniques...

Has anyone here, when meditating, gone into a transe or 'trip'.

Basically, the hypnogogic imagery starts freaking out, and.....wow, its amazing! I love it!

Originally posted by Lowercase Society
Has anyone here, when meditating, gone into a transe or 'trip'.

Basically, the hypnogogic imagery starts freaking out, and.....wow, its amazing! I love it!

I have very vivid HI. But ae you saying when you meditate you see HI?
What step in meditation is this.
Meditation has nothing to do with sleeping right?

The other day I tried meditating doing some exercises that the chakra deal said to do. There was a moment that I felt completely seperated from this world, I felt like I was nowhere. I had never achieved such introversion without being lucid, I guess. It felt pretty weird..

There are different definitions of meditation, the most popular of which is Eastern or transcendental I think... To me, meditation is a combination of extreme inward focus and contemplation. It can be done through prayer. I think it can also be simply focusing your mind on one thing or idea in particular -for the purpose of trying to comprehend it...

I often meditate on scripture, asking God to enable my understanding. I find this to be very helpful both for my dreaming and for my overall perspective.

OK, let's see if I can remember this correctly.

Stop for a minute and imagine with me, try to get fully involved and feel it.

You have $140 in your pocket. It is all the money you have for gas an lunch until you get paid 5 days from now.

When you return home, you find you have received a letter telling you that your electric bill is overdue and must be paid immediately. If you do not show up at the main office and pay them within 3 days, they will turn your electricity off. You owe them $120.

You leave to pay the bill, it is a 30 minute drive. On the way to pay the bill, you notice that you are almost out of gas. It takes a tank of gas to get to work each week and you have to get to work. A tank of gas costs you $18.

Your mind is consumed with thoughts: How will I eat? What about the present I wanted to get for my girlfriends birthday this Friday? I promised I would buy the next round at the club tonight$

Pause now and fully get into it, how will you make it? How will you survive? What can you juggle?

Think on this for a few moments before scrolling down.


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If you followed this and fully participated, then my friend, you have just meditated.

Worry is the most common type of meditation. Did it fully involve your mind and emotions? Could you feel the sense of panic?

If you can worry, then you can meditate. Just grab hold of an idea and think clearly and deeply of that idea.

It can be such a simple thought. Evangel likes to take a verse or two of scripture and do this. Others do it with simple concepts. One of my favorites is by Zbignew Herbert: "The pebble is a perfect creature, equal to itself, mindful of its limits.

Another type of meditation involves clearing the mind of all thought and just sitting and enjoying the emptyness. This usually results in a change of brainwave states, such as alpha and theta state.
When I was younger and had much more time on my hands, I dilligently practiced alpha meditation.

I would lay in bed at night and allow my mind to become passive and clear. Soon you enter a state that is similar to that nice warm fuzzy feeling you get just before you go to sleep. You know the state, you hear the insects or dogs making noise in the distance. Your mind notes the fact and is passively aware of what is happening, but you make no effort to think about it.

Alpha and theta state are the natural outcomes of meditation, however, tools such as Brainwave Generator, can speed up the process and help you to more quickly enter these states.

Whew! *wipes sweat from forhead*

Anyway, that is my two cents worth!

Yes, I meditate. Quite often as of late.

The mind during meditation is perfect for solving problems. While in Alpha, Theta, or even Delta if you're that good, you are able to use more resources in your brain.

Most of the time I just meditate for maybe 5-10 minutes and it refreshes my mind and relaxes my body. Actually, as a side effect of this, I have been requiring less sleep than usual. When I'm tired I just focus and then I'm OK.

Well Seeker if worring is a form of meditation I am a guru of meditation. However I would like to meditate on Quite the opposite. But I get your point.
Apply the same principles-- Correct?

Exactly!

seeker is very correct, meditation happens in your daily life , all the time., and depending on what you choose to meditate about, thats what your subconcious dwells on and thus makes it more profound part of your life, so you can conclude that meditation in the right way can send your life soaring in whatever direction you desire, so why not take the time to meditate?

Originally posted by evangel
To me, meditation is a combination of extreme inward focus and contemplation. It can be done through prayer. I think it can also be simply focusing your mind on one thing or idea in particular -for the purpose of trying to comprehend it...

I use to listen to audio books when I am waiting to fell asleep.
That is very relaxing, and I fell asleep fast.

Could this have a similarly effect as meditating?

Yeah i agree with alot of what seeker says

But im not with the idea that meditation requires some crappy breathing excersize, walking on a beach image thing. That hampered my progress, not to mention probally countless others when they first tried as the goal of trying to meditate gets overcome with trying to stick to the meditation induction techniquee itself.

I use all types of meditation to WILD or to induce just normal LD.

I find if i do Yoga and hour before i sleep I always LD.

Canis meus opus meum comedit!

ever since i joined this forum (wich was a few days after first learning about lucid dreaming) i found out i'm a MUCH MORE spiritual man than i always thought!
and now that i understand why these things are so important to me and HOW they can help me i want to find out more about all this...

meditation and relaxing one's thoughts can do the body so much good!
if you spend the day worrying all the time and feeling bad your body tensses and it may even afact your health!

i tried meditation twice by now (with the brainwave generator) and expirianced to distinct things... at some point my body temprature raised (i'm not sure why or how but i became really hot and sweaty all of a sudden) and i also had a VERY distinct HI which kind of freaked me out of the "medetative zone"

i guess its not the only time i meditated cuz as you said we do it all the time (there are times when i have nothing to do so i get into bed with my clothes on close my eyes and just ley there doing nothing... and i dont fall asleep becouse i dont mean to... so i guess that's a kind of meditation...)
and also i've been trying WILD everynight since finding out of LDs
but its hard cuz i dont fall asleep... i end up leying in bed for hours before i finelly fall asleep

what frequency would be best for creating HI ?

Well at least you may get some good HI while you lie there trying to go to sleep.
That is a good question. About the frequency. Or all brain wave inneraction for that matter. Is it on a AM mand or an FM or microwave type frequency. I do not know much about it other than AM bands are long and drawn out as opposed to FM which are higher in frequency.

From what i have heard there seems to be several approaches to meditation. Just as Lucid dreams.You just have to choose the one that works for you.