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      Yeah'n now we take those snazzy new wings and go trolling for TOTM members
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      Quote Originally Posted by woblybil View Post
      Yeah'n now we take those snazzy new wings and go trolling for TOTM members
      Do you guys think that we could get some more members to try for TOTMs, if we added some easier tasks? Like a super easy Basic.

      I'm trying to think of some goals I had while my dreams were short.

      Slow down, look around, describe what you see.
      Touch the ground. What is it? Grass, asphalt?
      Look at your body. What are you wearing?
      Say something out loud.
      Look behind you.
      Look at the skies. Are there clouds, stars?
      Make your fingers longer, or your hand by trying to reach for something further away.


      What do you guys think?

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      I think that would be a great way to let beginners participate. And it could help them slowly build up their dream control by starting with super basic, then climbing to basic, advanced, and bonus. Would we keep the normal basic tasks as well and make it possible to complete 7 tasks instead of 5? Would that mess with the coloring and spacing for the badges?
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      Quote Originally Posted by OneMoreDreamer View Post
      I think that would be a great way to let beginners participate. And it could help them slowly build up their dream control by starting with super basic, then climbing to basic, advanced, and bonus. Would we keep the normal basic tasks as well and make it possible to complete 7 tasks instead of 5? Would that mess with the coloring and spacing for the badges?
      All good questions, and I hope we can all figure it out with your help, guys.

      They would get same wings as the Basic tasks. (Or, maybe new Beginner wings?)
      So I guess they would get 2 tasks to pick from as well. Others could also do these tasks, but mostly for fun. Honor system, so if you are advanced dreamer, don't ask for wings for the beginner's tasks, haha.

      I like this idea of easier tasks, because this way, we can all mingle in one thread and hopefully learn from each other. And people will have something to strive for. Best way to advance is to try to do tasks you think you can't do.

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      Quote Originally Posted by gab View Post
      Do you guys think that we could get some more members to try for TOTMs, if we added some easier tasks? Like a super easy Basic.

      I'm trying to think of some goals I had while my dreams were short.

      Slow down, look around, describe what you see.
      Touch the ground. What is it? Grass, asphalt?
      Look at your body. What are you wearing?
      Say something out loud.
      Look behind you.
      Look at the skies. Are there clouds, stars?
      Make your fingers longer, or your hand by trying to reach for something further away.


      What do you guys think?
      We did draw a few new names trolling with new wings but I don't know what to think.. I don't know as it will bring in more participants unless we figure out a way to let them know they're here..How can we advertise the TOTM Thread?
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      Quote Originally Posted by woblybil View Post
      We did draw a few new names trolling with new wings but I don't know what to think.. I don't know as it will bring in more participants unless we figure out a way to let them know they're here..How can we advertise the TOTM Thread?
      Get nekked and streak through Lounge? Haha.

      Just what you have been doing already. Dropping a line in RRCC every now and then, talking to new members in chat, welcoming them in Intro zone and inviting them to TOTMs.

      Maybe we could get some cool signature. Like I dunno,

      Lucid Task Club.

      Learn new LDing skills while having fun completing monthly tasks.
      Gimme some ideas.

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      This all sounds fab. The intro class and the comps are both beginner friendly already so that is great. I know that from the intro class one could advertise totm or toty when the tasks are actually achievable.

      Actually getting lucid can be a big struggle for beginners. As we know and from evidence in the intro zone most people give up because of this and leave the site.

      It is this give up strategy that we need to counter to get more traffic on the site. Totm threads just for beginners would provide them with space to learn and achieve without the sense of being a failure if they don't get lucid in a given month. In order to do this a full month of DJ entries could be used as a way to get beginner wings or completing a tutorial could also give you beginner wings along with the two other tasks you have mentioned.

      With beginners having their own thread next to the more advanced dreamers with their own coloured badge could give them a sense of purpose and achievement. When you get 3 of the basic tasks complete then you move up to the advanced dreamers. Something in or around that. Basically you need a goal that a beginner can see as soon as they enter the site that is achievable for them.
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      Quote Originally Posted by DannyCool View Post
      This all sounds fab. The intro class and the comps are both beginner friendly already so that is great. I know that from the intro class one could advertise totm or toty when the tasks are actually achievable.

      Actually getting lucid can be a big struggle for beginners. As we know and from evidence in the intro zone most people give up because of this and leave the site.

      It is this give up strategy that we need to counter to get more traffic on the site. Totm threads just for beginners would provide them with space to learn and achieve without the sense of being a failure if they don't get lucid in a given month. In order to do this a full month of DJ entries could be used as a way to get beginner wings or completing a tutorial could also give you beginner wings along with the two other tasks you have mentioned.

      With beginners having their own thread next to the more advanced dreamers with their own coloured badge could give them a sense of purpose and achievement. When you get 3 of the basic tasks complete then you move up to the advanced dreamers. Something in or around that. Basically you need a goal that a beginner can see as soon as they enter the site that is achievable for them.
      This makes sense because for a beginner it is less about the difficulty of the task and more about lucid frequency. The more times you're lucid in a month the more attempts you can make which in turn increases the probability of completing a task. But lucid frequency is a feedback loop: the more motivated the more likely you become lucid which increases motivation etc. Rather than be discouraged when lucidity isn't achieved within a given timeframe, the beginner should be reminded that every positive step forward, like dream recall or dreaming about the subject, is an accomplishment that is bringing them closer to their goal. Not everyone remains motivated to keep trying if they don't get lucid.
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      Ok, Howziss?
      In the beginning.."The Introduction Zone" There is a "Welcome New Members" Sticky! From there on is another TOTM Thread " http://www.dreamviews.com/introducti...ml(Closed,with only 7 views since 2008) From there we go to the "http://www.dreamviews.com/wiki/TotM-Task-of-the-Month" (Also closed)and empty and is serving no apparent purpose at least of now..
      Lets revitalize those threads up to date with good stuff for beginners (Linked to our real TOTM thread) like Danny and others suggest and make them snazzy with dares and wing things and see if we can catch anything bottom fishing...


      PS: Just happened to think too! We used to be more sex oriented than now and as that tapered off so did our people, about 95% of lucid dreamers are in it for sex though they don't admit to it.. We may have to play more on their lust to get them back..Like using spoilers for their intended purpose and making our DJ's more descriptive.. We used to be really bad Just saying..
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      Quote Originally Posted by woblybil View Post
      We did draw a few new names trolling with new wings but I don't know what to think.. I don't know as it will bring in more participants unless we figure out a way to let them know they're here..How can we advertise the TOTM Thread?
      As we seem to have no beginner tasks yet I'm ok with yours
      "Slow down, look around, describe what you see.
      Touch the ground. What is it? Grass, asphalt?
      Look at your body. What are you wearing?
      Say something out loud.
      Look behind you.
      Look at the skies. Are there clouds, stars?
      Make your fingers longer, or your hand by trying to reach for something further away"
      Or if they beginner tasks are hiding someplace let me know :yddd".
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      Quote Originally Posted by woblybil View Post
      Beginner tasks
      Thanks for reminding me, wobly. I have edited them into first post in the Task for January http://www.dreamviews.com/tasks-mont...ml#post2209566

      Here is what I'm thinking. Anybody can try tasks in any category, but no crossovers.

      If you started doing the beginner tasks and you get a wing for that, you can't get wings for basic, advances..., even if you complete them. And vice versa. I just don't want to start stacking so many wings on top of each other. Sounds good?

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      Quote Originally Posted by gab View Post
      Thanks for reminding me, wobly. I have edited them into first post in the Task for January http://www.dreamviews.com/tasks-mont...ml#post2209566

      Here is what I'm thinking. Anybody can try tasks in any category, but no crossovers.

      If you started doing the beginner tasks and you get a wing for that, you can't get wings for basic, advances..., even if you complete them. And vice versa. I just don't want to start stacking so many wings on top of each other. Sounds good?
      Sounds fair to me, Sometimes even the simplest task is had to do and the winging would become a nightmare
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      Quote Originally Posted by gab View Post
      Here is what I'm thinking. Anybody can try tasks in any category, but no crossovers.

      If you started doing the beginner tasks and you get a wing for that, you can't get wings for basic, advances..., even if you complete them. And vice versa. I just don't want to start stacking so many wings on top of each other. Sounds good?
      If someone has beginner wings, they should still be able to get the other wings. Maybe remove the beginner wings when giving them basic, advanced etc?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Letaali View Post
      If someone has beginner wings, they should still be able to get the other wings. Maybe remove the beginner wings when giving them basic, advanced etc?
      They can. Next month, haha.

      Also, I spoke with wobly the other day about how to promote TOTMs and the new Beginner tasks. I told him I will make new signatures for the task club. Well, I didn't, but I realized you can just make them yourself easily in "edit signature" in your profile.

      If you want to copy mine, please feel free. Jut remove the extra dots from square brackets that I put there so it shows the way it does and remove the brackets from "advanced3" and they will show as wings. Change the color of text to your liking, but please keep the size and words the same. You have my permission to use the wings, but only for this signature, k?

      It would be nice if we all had same signature, as to promote our TOTMs and to showcase our mad skillz.

      So if you wish, please add them to your sig!

      Percy also has one, but he used different wings.


      [.CENTER][.SIZE=3][.URL="http://www.dreamviews.com/tasks-month-year/"][.B][.FONT=Verdana] [.COLOR=#800080][.SIZE=2].Official DreamViews [A.dvanced 3] LUCID TASK CHALLENGES
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