Thread: Sleep Paralysis just goes away!

This is where I'm stuck too. Any experienced people that can help us?

When you feel you're in SP, wait a couple seconds to ensure you're fully in, then try as hard as you can to sit/stand up or roll over in your bed. You will sit/stand/roll your dream body rather than your real body, because your real body is paralyzed. Then, do a reality check and enjoy your lucid.

I didn't get any HI during my SP last night, but felt the intense vibrations, floating, and body twisting feelings. I guess at the peak of all this, I'll try to stand up and enter the dream?

Yes, definitely when you feel the body twisting feelings. This is how you know that the sense of proprioception now lies within your dream body rather than your real body. I don't get much HI or HH when I'm in SP, either, but then again I'm usually not in it very long. Lately, however, it has been sort of difficult to make the transition... I get there eventually, but after a lot of stumbling around.

Thanks for the useful reply

I don't feel twisted, but I often feel like my body is separating into segments. Is this the same thing?

Originally Posted by JDKendall

Yes, definitely when you feel the body twisting feelings. This is how you know that the sense of proprioception now lies within your dream body rather than your real body. I don't get much HI or HH when I'm in SP, either, but then again I'm usually not in it very long. Lately, however, it has been sort of difficult to make the transition... I get there eventually, but after a lot of stumbling around.

Thank you. I'll go for it tomorrow morning.

Try imagining a dreamscape. Then try to force your "mind self" and just like reach into your dreamscape with your mind and out of your body.

I have the same problem. I usually feel a tingling all over my body and it feel like I am on a roller coaster spinning around and around then it all just stops. It never seems like I can't move or my body is in paralysis but the next time it happens i'll try rolling over and do a reality check.

If you don't create some mental imagery for your dream, you will have nothing to focus on except the sensations coming from your body, and eventually you will return to physical awareness and lose the SP.

It helps to have a scene planned beforehand, such as walking along a beach or climbing a mountain or even cooking dinner. Something that involves physical movement and as many of your senses as possible. When you imagine it it doesn't have to be very detailed, just abstract enough to be immersive. Eventually it should become more and more realistic until you are just inside from a first-person-perspective.

That sound logical, something to keep my mind occupied basically? I got to SP this morning and tried focusing on my breath but I wasn't relaxed enough and didn't focus enough.

I'm not sure anymore if I'm really in SP though, I feel quite intense vibrations, like a current is running through my body. It always comes suddenly. My tinnitus intensifies aswell. Last night it felt as if the current was coming to some sort of climax but then fading away right before the climax. This happened twice. During this climax it felt as if my mouth began to shake or something.

Anyways, during these vibrations I tried to move my finger and it did move so this is why I'm questioning if I'm actually in SP. It could also have been a hallucination though.

I'll do some research

Trying to move is not a good test for SP because you can usually move with a little effort. If your body feels heavy or you have poor awareness of your limbs, it's a good sign and you should try to deepen it, not test it to see if it breaks.

I do the equivalent of mindfulness meditation when I feel the vibrations (I focus my attention on them without trying to control or analyze them, and as a result they very quickly intensify).

Eventually they should fade and you'll feel very calm and still and in a deep equilibrium that's very different from right before the SP.

Alright so I can confirm I really was in SP this morning since I did have poor awareness of my limbs etc.

Sometimes I can make the vibrations intensify but I'm not sure how I do it. It's pretty much the same as you do though, focusing but not controlling it. It's quite hard to do it right though, especially for beginners like me.

I'll try to keep all of these things in mind during my next SP encounter,
Thanks for the helpful information!

I have a somewhat similar question. I can enter sleep paralysis with ease almost every time I try, but the problem isn't reaching that state, the problem is transitioning to the dream world. One thing I noticed while in SP is that my eyes go hay wire. Some times my eyes even get so crazy that they tend to tighten themselves up. Is this normal?
Anyway, the main problem I have is actually entering the dream. I imagine a dreamscape and what it would sound, feel, and look like. I even imagined myself barefoot, trying to feel the floor beneath me. But I just can't do it. I think that this is partly because I think too much and don't clear my mind enough to focus on the actual dreamscape, but even when I do, it's difficult. Does anyone have any useful tips? I also tried using some of the suggested ones, but they didn't seem to really work.

About the eyes: I had this same problem. When I started really tripping out into SP my eyes would start jittering in their sockets and my eyelids would start trembling, and I had a lot of trouble keeping them still.

Then I realized I don't have to keep my eyes still: they move around in REM, so they can move around in SP without messing you up. If you're imagining a dreamscape you can move your eyes beneath your eyelids (gently), as long as you're actually moving them in your dream to look in the same direction. This actually makes your dreamscape solidify and become more real.

As for imagining the dreamscape, you may be trying too hard to generate details. There are different levels of abstraction you can utilize while imagining things: ironically, the less abstract and detail-oriented, the less immersive it is. If it's more abstract you can simultaneously generate more sensory input. I'll post a snippet from my dream journal since I actually took some time to write this out at one point:

When you imagine a scene, it is possible to imagine it in different ways, at different levels of abstraction. I realized that I've been imagining things at the wrong location, and trying to force them to be too realistic. The trick is to not care about the realism level and just relax into the scene. I will try to describe the difference:

The difference is most apparent if you try to imagine a complex scene in which you are interacting with the environment from a first-person perspective. The first impulse is to delve into a level of detail commensurate with your daily physical-reality experience. This translates into attempting to fabricate details with specific intent, one at a time, as if you are viewing an enormous landscape through a pinhole camera: here you'll focus on the gritty texture of the wall against your hand, there you'll try to recreate the smell of a basil leaf, and then you'll try to capture the look of a sunset, or the feel of walking down the street.

You're basically bouncing around from one sensation to another, and as a result a holistic picture fails to emerge. The most telling example is of the sensation of walking, which requires several different sensory inputs, including balance, touch (the feel of the floor and of your legs moving), vision (the surroundings moving past you in a measured motion), and proprioperception. It's very difficult, almost impossible, to consciously generate all of these sensory inputs at the same time.

Describing something in terms of spatial location isn't very useful, but truly, the next level of abstraction feels like it a little higher up in your head. Mine actually feels like it's also slightly to the right, as if the scene exists above and to the right in my perception, but this is probably temporary since I just discovered it today. Basically, you are sacrificing size, proximity, and detail in return for a more complete sensory experience. When I first noticed I could further abstract my imaginary scene, it felt like I was entering/viewing a smaller cinema screen that was a little further away from me. However, since this screen is, ironically, more immersive, it slowly grows to fill your entire perception and after a short while the details start to fill in. Your subconscious takes care of all the little details that would otherwise confound your powers of concentration, the way muscle memory helps you to play a complicated piano piece quickly and then fails you when you try to slow it down.

Try like "opening your locker" in school while in SP. Thats a good one because it involves your wrists and is a dreamscape you know very well.



Am i smarticle now or wat?

Originally Posted by bluremi

About the eyes: I had this same problem. When I started really tripping out into SP my eyes would start jittering in their sockets and my eyelids would start trembling, and I had a lot of trouble keeping them still.

Then I realized I don't have to keep my eyes still: they move around in REM, so they can move around in SP without messing you up. If you're imagining a dreamscape you can move your eyes beneath your eyelids (gently), as long as you're actually moving them in your dream to look in the same direction. This actually makes your dreamscape solidify and become more real.

As for imagining the dreamscape, you may be trying too hard to generate details. There are different levels of abstraction you can utilize while imagining things: ironically, the less abstract and detail-oriented, the less immersive it is. If it's more abstract you can simultaneously generate more sensory input. I'll post a snippet from my dream journal since I actually took some time to write this out at one point:

I had no idea about any of this, I thought the most embracing way to enter a dreamscape is to imagine every little detail and eventually you'll enter it. So what you're telling me is that I should focus on more abstract imagery and sensory? Like walking down the street like you said. So this would help me be forced into the dreamscape because it requires many sensory inputs and more imagery, rather than focusing on the simple standing barefoot and having the one sensory input of the feeling of the floor beneath me. I think I get what you're saying. So would you say motion is a huge factor in the abstraction level? Pretty much anything requiring motion (kind of like you said) requires many senses and imagery detail. I'm gonna try that and see if I can enter the dream this way, thanks for the advice.

Originally Posted by iDreambig

So would you say motion is a huge factor in the abstraction level? Pretty much anything requiring motion (kind of like you said) requires many senses and imagery detail. I'm gonna try that and see if I can enter the dream this way, thanks for the advice.

Everyone seems to have a different experience of what works, but imagining "whole body" movement while interacting with the dream environment sucks me in very quickly. A couple activities that work well are rock climbing, running across a beach, crawling through a cave, etc.

If a lucid dream is just a matter of getting distracted from your physical body, it seems logical that you'd want to engage with as much of your imaginary body as possible.

Isn't "seperating" out of your body but you're still in your room an OBE? Or is it the same thing as a Lucid dream? Yeaa.. im still kind of new to all this. Also one time i tried to get into sp, I got into this state of hearing different ringing noises and vibrations but i also had this wierdish weight feeling in my stomach that i can't describe, then my hands sometimes felt like they were on my thighs or my fingers felt like they were rising by themselves. Was that sp? I stopped b/c I want to get used to it step by step.