Thread: am i getting close?

pretty sure REM is right after SP and you're actually dreaming. could be wrong. You're probably real close. I found the two main things when WILDing are: 1. have atleast 4.5hrs~ of sleep already before attempting 2. simply focus your awareness on breathing, everytime you get distrated by a thought pattern that turns into a crazy random story, revert your awareness back to your breathing, the more relaxed you get the harder this gets. Keep this up, believe in yourself, and soon your head will feel like its being sucked into a vacuum of some sorts, you'll feel a weird/uncomfortable feeling throughout your body(i feel it in my back sometimes, like its twisting almost). If you stayed calm throughout that process and just observed it, you'll likely be in a very quiet void-like area... trying simply floating up by having the intent to do so, if you can do it a bit you're in your dream!

best of luck

I've been having the same problem, I thought it meant that I wasn't ready to enter a dream because I could feel my eyes moving around really fast under my eyelids and I knew that was REM, but I thought a dream failed to form. Going to try again tonight.

You didn't ask me...but I'll comment anyway. I think this is almost like that thing in Star Wars...where Luke tried to raise the ship out of the water. He couldn't do it....and said..."this is impossible". Yoda said..."That is why you failed". So I am trying to tell you that you must not question whether you're there or not. Assume you are...assume you can........don't check to see if it's happening......you don't need to. It is. You don't need to check. It's done.