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      Quote Originally Posted by cmind View Post
      Calling those with more knowledge than yourself "retard" isn't a sign of a great intellect.
      You don't seem to be presenting knowledge but an opinion. There are a few main techniques but many sub techniques.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Zebrah View Post
      You don't seem to be presenting knowledge but an opinion. There are a few main techniques but many sub techniques.
      Not really... There's only DILD and WILD. And even that division doesn't stand up to scrutiny. But certainly, the sub-techniques are illusions meant to guide beginners. They're just different descriptions of the same thing.

      To use an analogy, it's like guided meditation. Different guides have different narratives, but they all do the same thing to the subject.

      Or to give another analogy, it's like in school when they teach arithmetic to children using word problems. They might talk about the number of apples, or slices of pie, or dollars and cents, but it's all the same thing. Arithmetic.

      Another word for what I'm trying to say here is "abstraction". The expert sees beyond the minutiae of "techniques" and sees that it's really all the same thing.

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      Quote Originally Posted by cmind View Post
      Not really... There's only DILD and WILD. And even that division doesn't stand up to scrutiny. But certainly, the sub-techniques are illusions meant to guide beginners. They're just different descriptions of the same thing.

      To use an analogy, it's like guided meditation. Different guides have different narratives, but they all do the same thing to the subject.

      Or to give another analogy, it's like in school when they teach arithmetic to children using word problems. They might talk about the number of apples, or slices of pie, or dollars and cents, but it's all the same thing. Arithmetic.

      Another word for what I'm trying to say here is "abstraction". The expert sees beyond the minutiae of "techniques" and sees that it's really all the same thing.
      The expert teacher sees that the minutiae are what differentiate one student from another. There is one new and different technique for every person who wishes to learn.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xaqaria View Post
      The expert teacher sees that the minutiae are what differentiate one student from another. There is one new and different technique for every person who wishes to learn.
      Which is agreeing with what I already said; every student has different ways of getting to the truth, but the truth itself is universal. There are no "techniques" in reality.

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      It is good then, that we are all in agreement.

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      Quote Originally Posted by cmind View Post
      Which is agreeing with what I already said; every student has different ways of getting to the truth, but the truth itself is universal. There are no "techniques" in reality.
      I'm not trying to push an argument, but a different way to get to the goal, is a technique. If you just relax to get to SP but someone has to count to 100 (for them to relax as you did) its achieving the same goal, but they are two different techniques. thats technically what a technique is

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      Quote Originally Posted by AffinityMage View Post
      I'm not trying to push an argument, but a different way to get to the goal, is a technique. If you just relax to get to SP but someone has to count to 100 (for them to relax as you did) its achieving the same goal, but they are two different techniques. thats technically what a technique is
      As long as the person counting to 100 knows that it's a crutch, it's probably almost entirely placebo, and their "technique" could stop working at any time, then sure.

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      Quote Originally Posted by cmind View Post
      As long as the person counting to 100 knows that it's a crutch, it's probably almost entirely placebo, and their "technique" could stop working at any time, then sure.
      You may be right, I was only pointing out that it is a technique non the less, flawed or otherwise.

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