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    1. 03-12-2011 11:17 PM #1
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      I just can't start dreaming! :/

      Hey guys! i'm new here and i can see that there's a lot of great information here!

      well, i didn't have a LD yet! i've tried the WILD for about 5 times. Now, i can get into SP, and i start to have some light visual alucinations, but i never can start dreaming! the visual alucinations dont get stronger and dream sounds are not often!

      Can you guys help me, how can i help myself to form my dream, i finally have a LD? please!

      thank you!
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    2. 03-12-2011 11:29 PM #2
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      Great progress!
      Two things I would suggest:

      1. When are you doing your WILD? If you're new, then use WBTB. There's loads of info about WBTB on the forums.
      2. Try phasing. When you're in SP and you're having some light hallucinations, or other visuals, start noticing them, becoming more absorbed with them. Don't ignore them, and try not to 'analyze' or 'think' them, instead, just observe them and they will become stronger.
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    3. 03-12-2011 11:34 PM #3
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      i heard about the WBTB just today, so i'll try it soon! Well, i'll also try do just let the hallucinations to become stronger! i hope i'll have some progress tonight! thank you man!
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    4. 03-12-2011 11:58 PM #4
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      You have gotten farther than me in WILD. I had a random short DILD, but I'm trying to get WILD to work. Whenever I do my WBTB I keep falling asleep normally rather than going through the hallucinations and SP into dreamland.
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    5. 03-13-2011 01:14 AM #5
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      WILD is really hard, but i want to have my LDs through the WILD technique, so i can have LDs as much as i want, and some say WILD LD are more vivid and real =D
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      You may not be tired enough....

      Don't doubt yourself, be confident. Intention is everything.
      Our truest life is when we are in dreams awake
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    7. 03-13-2011 04:49 AM #7
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      thank you all you guys , i'll try it hard!
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    8. 03-13-2011 03:11 PM #8
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      i've tried this night, and i failed!

      BUT, i am feeling like i'm on the right way! i woke up after 3 hours of sleeping and then i tried, and almost did it! this time i'll try after 4 hours of sleeping!

      thank all you guy!
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    9. 03-13-2011 06:56 PM #9
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      Have you read abut the sleep cycle? It goes approximately every 90 minutes. The ending period is REM, when you dream. So you should calculate multiples of 90 minutes and then wake up a few minute before the end of one. You will have to fine tune it to you, though.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Rawracookie View Post
      Have you read abut the sleep cycle? It goes approximately every 90 minutes. The ending period is REM, when you dream. So you should calculate multiples of 90 minutes and then wake up a few minute before the end of one. You will have to fine tune it to you, though.
      you also have to take into account that after the first 90 minutes and then a dream, the next dream comes a bit sooner than the last, the third sooner than that, and so on. like rawracookies said, you will have to fine tune it to you.
      Lucid dream goals: DILD: 5 WILD: 10 =^..^=
      -have magic powers [] -run through the school and trash stuff [X] -play a part in my favorite books and movies []
      -create an evil doppleganger of myself and start a superpower war against her [] -transport somewhere [x]
      -make a creative workshop [] -have giant wings to fly with [] -ask dream characters about meaning of dreamworld []
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      you mean, in the end of every 90 minutes i have a dream, so for example, i pick up 4 cycles (to be deeply asleep) , that's 360 minutes (6 hours), so i have to set my alarm to like, 5 hours and 30 minutes after my sleep ? that wouldn't stopthe cycle and it would start all over again?
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      Quote Originally Posted by nmat3 View Post
      you mean, in the end of every 90 minutes i have a dream, so for example, i pick up 4 cycles (to be deeply asleep) , that's 360 minutes (6 hours), so i have to set my alarm to like, 5 hours and 30 minutes after my sleep ? that wouldn't stopthe cycle and it would start all over again?
      At that point, your body is ready to re-enter the cycle where it left off as long as you go back to bed in a few minutes.
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    13. 03-14-2011 05:52 PM #13
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      i was going to try it, i set my alarm for 5 hours after my sleep, but i woke up espontanealy 2 hours earlier, and them i couldn't get comfortable in the SP, i was for the first time,freaking out! i'll try it in a nap today maybe, and tonight again!
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    14. 03-14-2011 09:19 PM #14
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      so it is like, 90 minutes for the first to come, 80 minutes for the second, them 70 minutes,something like that?
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    15. 03-14-2011 09:30 PM #15
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      Quote Originally Posted by nmat3 View Post
      so it is like, 90 minutes for the first to come, 80 minutes for the second, them 70 minutes,something like that?
      Well, it's different for everybody. You'll have to look up some good sites or books on the sleep cycle. But you've got the right idea.
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      LD[X] :: WILD [_] :: MILD [_] :: Control myself [/] :: LD a few minutes [X] :: LD 20 minutes [X] :: Interrogate DCs [_] :: Fireballs from my hands [X] :: Change settings [X] :: KAMEHAMEHA [_] :: Encounter my subconscious [_] :: Teleport [X] :: Fly [X] :: Take the "Lucid Pill" [X]
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