Thread: Need help transitioning into a LD from SP

Thanks alot dudes . Hopefully this thread will help other people too (yes, you lurkers)

Ctharlhie, That happens alot to me too, I'll nearly always be aware when I exit a dream, at least twice in the night so it's a great opportunity to slip into a dream aware. I'm going to try again tonight, within a couple of days I'll have done it, I CAN TASTE IT!!!@

Originally Posted by Ctharlhie

This thread is very useful, really detailed insightful posts, MrMarley. It's fascinating to read about the experiences of someone who has got further than you.

What are your opinions on DEILD vs WILD, KingYoshi? I tend to wake up during the night and am aware of it very often; in fact sometimes I'll think I'm having a sleepless night because I'm aware of lying in bed and changing lying positions, but actually I'm slipping in and out of consciousness without knowing it as I'm going through sleep cycles.
Do you think a simple MILD of 'I will know when I have woken from a dream' will help in a DEILD attempt?

Yeah, MILD can be paired with many different techniques. It could definitely help out and I suggest you give it a shot. I might would try, "I will realize when I am waking up from a dream."

DEILD is an extremely easy technique and process, but the window of opportunity for a successful DEILD is pretty slim. You need to realize you are waking up from a dream either just before you wake up, or as you are waking from the dream. Now, it is very possible to wake up and then perform a DEILD with success, but this is really hard to achieve in my experience. If you are able to catch yourself waking up, don't move and keep your eyes closed. Stay relaxed during this time and you will feel yourself wake up and almost immediately slip right back into sleep. Sometimes there is SP, but for me it happens so fast that I barely feel anything besides the waking up and falling right back into the dream state.

If you ever have a lucid dream and you feel it ending, its very easy to just chain right back into a lucid with DEILD. Just keep in mind that the more you chain the easier it will be to forget the earlier dreams. If I have a nice longer and enjoyable lucid, I won't DEILD. I'll try to hang on to the dream, but if I start to wake up, I just allow myself to do so. Now, for some of those short lucid experiences or if I am at a very interesting part of my dream, I'll definitely DEILD.

Originally Posted by MrMarley

Thanks alot dudes . Hopefully this thread will help other people too (yes, you lurkers)

Ctharlhie, That happens alot to me too, I'll nearly always be aware when I exit a dream, at least twice in the night so it's a great opportunity to slip into a dream aware. I'm going to try again tonight, within a couple of days I'll have done it, I CAN TASTE IT!!!@

Yeah, I've got a feeling you are just about ready to nail it. Just keep practicing and good luck to you!

Well, people! I'VE DONE IT!!! . Successful WILD number 1, although the experience to get there sucked serious ass. K wall of text.

So, I'm in bed, reaching for the annoying alarm signalling it's time to WBTB. I stay awake for a bit then try to fall asleep while being aware. It took me a while, especially because someone else in the room is snoring really loud. But after an hour, I start to get the borderline SP phase, where the 'plunge' can be taken or not, it's like, the vibration or compression will come and then go, like its teasing you, like you're trying to jump up to catch a moving pendulum, thats the perfect description. So this plunge was really painful, I remember not going into SP some days before because my bladder area was being compressed reaaally uncomfortably. This was the same thing, but i decided I'll do it anyway, I plunged, and normally in SP I get very loud wave-like ringing noises in my ears and intense wave-like vibrations which are actually very calming and peaceful, I ride it out very much like a wave, fascinating in that state, body asleep, mind experiencing this. This time, no, nothing like that. Felt as if I was being wrenched out of my bed (body?) by something by my feet, I had no ringing sounds and no intense vibrations just really heavy compression at my pelvis area, and I was really .. frightful because I remember groaning out, like 'aaah, nooo' and remember thinking I don't care if my sister hears. At this point I remembered, how do I break SP when I want to? How do I stop night terrors? Relax, remember how good life is, what life is, so I'm relaxed, calm and serene and I remember tilting my head to look out of my window (hallucinations obv.) and seeing the sun shining in on my face.. lol thinking about it now, it was so spiritually amazing, light always gotch'yo back. I said 'ah! blinding sun' then thought and said '..no, not blinding' was completely chilled now, at peace.

So apparently I 'broke' the SP here, suddenly I jumped out of bed and woke my sister up saying, 'Wake up, something scary happened' As I woke up and got out of my bed, I was moving in slow motion for a while and everything was very.. colourful and THICK. Like being ridiculously high but with extra colour injected everywhere. Nearly cartoon-like. I noticed here, 'Oh shit, im dreaming, it worked' but soon after lost lucidity, I think I wanted to lose lucidity, i wasn't comfortable to be in a lucid after that scary shit, I told myself that the scary experience fucked with my perception and that it would go after an hour.

After this short-lived lucid-ish dream I slipped out and entered SP again, I wasn't about to enter another dream, I wanted to end it. But it was still scary, same type of SP, and this time I heard auditory 'hallucinations', people saying 'quick, open him up' and murmuring, all the time I was trying to break the SP with force, which never works in my experience lol... Sure enough though I was led to break it, imagined looking over my bed and seeing a newspaper that said 'harder you try, easier for them to take you over' didn't know what that meant, so kept struggling. After a while I clocked it, and then relaxed, then I woke up.

All in all... I will definitely not be doing WILD intentionally, lol. Some nights I find myself in SP but the good kind lol, so in those times I'll decide to WILD. I've had experiences before where I've found myself in SP and it definitely WASN'T good lol, but those times I've known to relax and overcome it, here it was like biting off more than I could chew for a bit. When my mindsets right and I'm confident and relaxed I might try WILDing normally, but those scary SP's really do suck.

Thanks for all the help Yoshi, the transition here was most strange, but I guess I was just VERY immersed in the SP the dream was all the time forming. Thanks alot .