Thread: ( WILD) problems with sleep paralysis

What is going through your mind during these attempts? Generally, you need to be doing some sort of meditation to try and encourage a trance-like state. Read a few WILD guides to get an idea of what I mean.

Also, 9 hours of sleep before your attempt is probably too much. You are probably not tired enough after a full night's sleep. Try waking after 4 1/2 or 5 hours of sleep.

Well, I usually try not to think to much. I either day dream or focus on non-physical space. Also I guess i should have been more specific on the times. so here's the specification. when i do morning attempts, it's usualy around 5AM when i go to sleep around 11PM-12AM. on night attempts, i get 9 hours the previous night. I'm not sure if that will help.

And thanks, i will look into some meditation and other WILD guides.

Originally Posted by Robot_Butler

What is going through your mind during these attempts? Generally, you need to be doing some sort of meditation to try and encourage a trance-like state. Read a few WILD guides to get an idea of what I mean.

Also, 9 hours of sleep before your attempt is probably too much. You are probably not tired enough after a full night's sleep. Try waking after 4 1/2 or 5 hours of sleep.

What do you personally do? There are so many contradicting tutorials out there, ranging from Yoshi's guide where he basically suggests doing nothing but try to fall asleep, lying there until you hit SP through to techniques that say you have to constantly count breaths. I find with the former that I don't 'feel' like I'm WILDing and I fall into unconscious sleep because I'm not doing anything different to the normal process, and the latter seems to keep me awake because it is taking to much concentration.

Well right now I am attempting to do it through mantras.(you know like, repeating one sound aloud, then in your head to keep it focused on a simple task) Most of the time I just focus on the space around me, switching each attempt. One i will focus on the feeling in my chest and body, another time I might focus on my head. I usually focus on non-physical space though, which is the metaphoric space in front of your eyelids.

The only tutorial I follow is Nick Newport's, as it is the only one i have taken the entire way through. I have almost succeeded with a VILD though, it was extremely difficult to get my memory impressions to that level, and then i accidentally moved and broke the whole trance

I WILD but without a proper SP. When I started to practice I still got more of a SP, but I always was able to move my muscles anyway - only my muscles would ache when I did move too fast. These days I do not have any SP, but just a deep relaxation. So you can try to achieve the feeling of deep relaxation. I have to lie on my back for that. I can't do it during the nights, as then I get twitchy legs, so I can't lie still on my back. Nick Newport's tutorial did not work for me at all because of that. Also his SP induction techniques did not work for me.

When I am deeply relaxed my legs and arms start feeling like they become fuzzy at the edges. I think about it as feeling my energy body. To achieve that, it does help me to send my awareness through my body, searching for all the spots that have any tension left and then allow the part to relax. The most important part for me is always the neck. When I manage to relax there, it gives a feeling of a surge of relaxation. This sometimes can go up to my headspace and allows also my mind to relax.

Thank's much Kilpikonna, that sound's like it will work. I get that leg and arm feeling quite often as well, so I will now know what to do at that point, even if my body doesnt go into SP.

For the others, thanks the actual meditation (instead of just going to sleep) helped me relax a lot. Although if anyone can tell me if I can and how i should go into SP, I would still like to hear(read) it.

Moved to the WILD forum.

Originally Posted by zebrah

Moved to the WILD forum.

OK, thanks.