Wild help

[Mildog]

I have been trying to wild now for three weeks and I am having a lot of trouble. Usually what I do is I do a wbtb and wild. And sometimes I try to wild when I go to sleep at the start of the night and sometimes I try in the afternoon. When I wild I get into bed and start to relax. I do that by breathing slow and deep and counting. After a while my feet and hands get numb but that's as far as I get. I never see any hynagoggles or feel the SP. Sometimes I hear loud snoring which I think is myself or it could be random sounds. My attempts usually go for about an hour and sometime 2. The furthest I've gotten is one night when I tried It at the start of the night my body started to get tingly at times and the darkness in my eyelids got brighter but I freaked out and stopped. I didn't have any SP because when I stopped I could roll over without any troubles. Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong please or give me some tips. Sorry for the long post.

[gab]

Trying to WILD without at least 4.5 hours of sleep is near impossible. But the WBTB technique is great. Also an afternoon nap works. Read up as much as you can about what you can expect during transition, so you don't freak out. Because the darkness getting brighter behing your eyelids used to be one of my signs, that I'm well into transition, less than 10 min from lucid dream. But you have to be ready for it and not get scared. 1. I would recommend getting up anytime at multiples of 90 min, starting after 4.5 hours of sleep. So after 4.5, 6, 7.5 hours of sleep. 2. Stay up anywhere from 5 min to 1 hour, until you think clearly, but still sleepy. 3. Go back to bed. Lay still and wait for the swirls behind your eyelids to change into images, or some other type of transition and enter lucid dream. An occasional scatch or swallow is ok, but try to avoid it. Good luck

[Mildog]

Thanks man il keep on trying

[sanctum]

This was my exact experience. Basically what's happening is that you're too alert and you're paying too much attention to what's going on with your body, sensations, etc. There are several things you can do to help yourself get into the WILD state. 1. First, have some sleep beforehand. Not only is it necessary for reaching true REM cycles, but after you wake you'll be at least a little relaxed, rather than going straight from waking to lucidity. 2. Next, adjust the times you wake up. Set an alarm four hours after you sleep, then increase the time by 15 minutes each try until you've found a time you can WILD successfully from. This varies for everyone. If you naturally wake during the night, you can try it then, or set an alarm for right before the time you usually wake. 3. The next thing is to not go overboard with the WBTB. You may find that you fall asleep too easily after you wake up, but I've found that even getting out of bed makes it impossible to relax enough to WILD. So unless you have to go to the bathroom or something, try to stay still when your alarm goes off (and if you have a cell phone with alerts or reminders, you can set a short, loud sound to go off that will wake you but won't have to be turned off). If you time it right and try not to become too alert, that can let you basically induce a DEILD because you'll be half-conscious and near a dream state. 4. Remember that you don't have to adhere to a specific technique. Sure, there are plenty of great techniques out there--FILD, Free-fall technique, electronically induced, meditation, mantras, and more--but that doesn't mean that's what you're limited to. Your success won't be instant (probably), but over time you'll begin to find what works for you, from when to wake up, to a relaxation technique, to what your transition is like, and then into how to manipulate your dreams. Good luck