Thread: Disastrous first WILD attempt

Originally Posted by Nailler

Sounds like you tried to wild without WBTB, couldn't hit a REM period, and ended up in the (cue scary music) VOID!!!

But you did learn about wiggling your fingers. Changing your breathing can also break you out of SP.

I would bet that had you done exactly what you did after a WBTB you would have found yourself in a lucid dream.

Try again, but after sleeping for 4-6 hours.

Niall

Ah. See, I was under the impression that you could get a dream without WBTB. I guess the guide I read was just wrong- thanks for letting me know! But if that wasn't REM, then why was I in SP and getting all those weird sensations?

Originally Posted by geegeegee5

Ah. See, I was under the impression that you could get a dream without WBTB. I guess the guide I read was just wrong- thanks for letting me know! But if that wasn't REM, then why was I in SP and getting all those weird sensations?

The body's process of falling asleep is the same, SP and sensations, when first going to bed or after a WBTB. The difference is NREM, the early stage of sleep, is pretty much dream free. For a vivid dream to form you need to fall to sleep close to REM stage. REM sleep is like the canvas on which dreams are painted... so to speak.

WBTB works, because in the later sleep cycles, REM sleep periods are longer and follow more closely on one another.

You should consider your experience as a success because you were able to stay aware, even if it ended in dreamless NREM rather than REM.

Niall