Somebody please tell me what I'm doing wrong? (WILD)

[Spun]

I realize there has probably been a thousand threads like these. ,_, sorry But here goes..: I've been trying several times, with almost exactly the same result. I wake up naturally during the night (after about 5hrs of sleep) (I don't go for a glass of water, because I'm having enough trouble falling asleep as is), close my eyes, calm down, breathe. Within a minute, it feels like my body is stiffening. It starts in my toes and quickly spreads to the rest of my body. It feels like I wouldn't be able to move, but I'm perfectly able to. Moving causes it to go away, so I keep my body perfectly still. I start seeing flashes of moving light, and sometimes even floating images. So far so good. I'm also getting uncomfortable and itchy, but I'm able to ignore it. After a while, it goes away. Spoiler for What happened yesterday: Yesterday, I felt that my body was somewhere entirely else - it felt like I was floating around in this blue space, and if I opened my eyes, I would be there. But I figured it was a trick of my mind and kept my eyes closed. The feeling eventually faded. This was the first time I felt like pshysically being somewere else. So after lying like that for some time, the feeling of my body being stiff continues, until... it completely dissapears. It lasts for about half an hour to fourty minutes. I open my eyes, RC, and I'm still awake, still in the real world. Eventually, I give up and just go to sleep the normal way. Will somebody please give me a pointer here? I'm trying to use WILD as a backup plan for my DEILD. Am I far from getting there? Should I just continue doing the same thing as I did above, and hopefully get better with practice? Thank you!

[gab]

Sounds like you doing it right. Can you tell me, if you actually get close to falling asleep? Because it may be, that you are focusing on WILDing too much, and also paying too much attention to your physical body, and that keeps you awake. When you say that after a while you stop feeling your body, I guess that could be a good sign. Because ultimately, that's the goal. To let our body fall asleep, while we keep our mind aware, but also asleep. The hardest part (for me) is to time falling asleep to the exact moment when dream forms and it's available for me to enter it. If I fall asleep too soon, well, then it's just an unconscious sleep with non lucid dreams. But if I fail to fall asleep at the moment when dream is ready, then I'm lucid for a few seconds after entering the dream, but wake up, because, well, I didn't fell asleep. I just couldn't hold on to lucidity long enough to fall asleep and stay in the dream. This sageous's tutorial explains the whole process in great detail and here is our short, basic WILD and here is something about types of entry into WILD http://www.dreamviews.com/wake-initi...into-wild.html Happy dreams

[jmanjohn]

I have a similar problem with both of yall. I get to that point where my body is tingling numbish, and it feels somewhat intense, then after like 30 seconds to a minute it goes away. Its like I focus too much on myself and I don't fall asleep, but I always have trouble falling asleep. WILDs shall continue to elude I suppose.

[martakartus]

I've attempted WILD on a number of occasions. I relax my body, keep my eyes staring straight behind my eyelids and even relax my jaw. Although breathing through my mouth feels pretty uncomfortable, I can handle it. And yet, I never seem to get past the paralysis stage. I may hear some buzzing, but never get to the hallucinations. I don't know how long it's supposed to take, more or less, but it feels like forever and I never get there.