Almost lucid?!

**Elaol** · 08-30-2014 01:33 PM

So, today, I've tried to WILD two times, at 7:45 AM and 11:30 AM.

First time I used WBTB and I was laying still using game of associations as mental anchor. I've lost focus a couple of time, but I continued anyway. After a while I was dreaming. It wasn't long dream, anyway, it ended by specter possessing me. I woke up, but continued to lay. Then I felt like I am leaving my body. I thought "I will be lucid!" but I woke up.

Second time I was napping while listening to metronome on my phone (when I just count I lose focus very easily, so I used metronome. All hail smartphones

). I adjusted it to my breathing and I was counting inhale-one... exhale-I'm dreaming. After counting to 150 metronome stopped (I adjusted it to stop after 150) and I continued counting on my own. After 20-30 counts I tried imagining my room and stimulating multiple senses. But then I saw some zombie-like hand coming out of computer screen. I was looking at myself (3rd person), but I switched to first person as the hand grabbed me and pulled inside screen. I found myself standing on the lake. I thought "Man, this water is cold", and I woke up again, but then I felt extreme heaviness in my hand and heatwave in my head. I continued imagining my room and that lake, but I couldn't do it. After a while I got up and did RC to see if it is hopefully FA, but it wasn't. Going to try tomorrow again.

Do you think I was going to enter LD or it was just me imagining it was going to be LD?

**MisakaMikoto** · 08-30-2014 05:09 PM

Hi Dude,

The first one might've been a DEILD since something made you wake up (specter?) during active rem cycle and when you woke up you remained calm and motionless (Remaining Motionless allowed you to keep your body in rem atonia) and therefore body decided to instantly put you back into a dream world

:
The part when you felt leaving a body might've been already dream itself yet maybe you've gotten too much excited and this made dream fall apart?
Dreams are easy to break if you don't stabilize them

For me DILDs are more stable than WILDs,
My DILDs does not seem to require stabilizing them after becoming lucid yet WILDs without stabilizing will fall apart quite fast

The second one might've been a lucid dream aswell, yet it lacked too a stabilization?
Lucid Dreams in which i don't use stabilization tend to end after from few seconds up to few minutes.
The dreams with stabilization can go up to hour if your at long rem cycle (Just as long as you won't destabilize dream enough to wake yourself up?)
If you are able to stabilize the lucid dream then there is only one major problem left that might happen a la Losing Lucidity.
If your having high quality lucid dream with nearly waking life consciousness then it is unlikely to lost lucidity, yet with really low quality lucid dreams you might lost it quite easily.

I myself hate doing stabilization because i'd just want to enter a lucid dream and do what i want instead of having to do the stabilization stuff as the start.
If you stabilize even being excited as heck might not wake you up

I myself started to use this stabilization technique:
Dream Stabilization and Clarity Tutorial - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

You seem to be doing fine progress with WILDs
Good Job Mate

**Elaol** · 08-30-2014 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by MisakaMikoto

Hi Dude,

The first one might've been a DEILD since something made you wake up (specter?) during active rem cycle and when you woke up you remained calm and motionless (Remaining Motionless allowed you to keep your body in rem atonia) and therefore body decided to instantly put you back into a dream world

:
The part when you felt leaving a body might've been already dream itself yet maybe you've gotten too much excited and this made dream fall apart?
Dreams are easy to break if you don't stabilize them

For me DILDs are more stable than WILDs,
My DILDs does not seem to require stabilizing them after becoming lucid yet WILDs without stabilizing will fall apart quite fast

The second one might've been a lucid dream aswell, yet it lacked too a stabilization?
Lucid Dreams in which i don't use stabilization tend to end after from few seconds up to few minutes.
The dreams with stabilization can go up to hour if your at long rem cycle (Just as long as you won't destabilize dream enough to wake yourself up?)
If you are able to stabilize the lucid dream then there is only one major problem left that might happen a la Losing Lucidity.
If your having high quality lucid dream with nearly waking life consciousness then it is unlikely to lost lucidity, yet with really low quality lucid dreams you might lost it quite easily.

I myself hate doing stabilization because i'd just want to enter a lucid dream and do what i want instead of having to do the stabilization stuff as the start.
If you stabilize even being excited as heck might not wake you up

I myself started to use this stabilization technique:
Dream Stabilization and Clarity Tutorial - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

You seem to be doing fine progress with WILDs
Good Job Mate

Thanks! You're helpful as always

So, my first goal is accomplished

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