Thread: [MUST READ] New WILD videos on YouTube! - Lucidology 101&102

Originally Posted by Jeff777

Hm. You know what guys? I'm willing to bet my house deed that this SkinnyBill is that Nicholas Newport guy who uploaded the vids to youtube. If I'm correct (which I seriously think I am...) then I give him a plaque for somewhat great stealth marketing.

There are a few things that gave him away.

1. Obviously from his post, he's watched the saltcube videos and/or DVD. He said that the saltcube vids were good (complimenting Matt on his work) but that they didn't explain everything (introducing his own work)

And this part below was written by a guy who knows a thing or two about marketing...



2. Check his join date (Skinny Bill's)

3. Nicholas Newport is a great marketer. I say that because he offers the stealthy e-book as a "gift" but it's used (like other great marketers) as a lure into something they want to sell you (his digital LD products which you must download after you pay for them - not a physical product). Dreamviews being synonymous with Lucid Dreaming itself...there's no way a great marketer like him with LD products which he has wouldn't hit this site up eventually. He's probably on MM and/or LD4all as well.

4. Nothing is wrong with marketing! Our world revolves around it! I'm just pointing this out.

HAHAHAHA very funny. Im NOT this Nicholas Newport guy. Im called SkinnyBILL - Bill being short for WILLIAM. Anyway, i only wanted to let you guys know about it

The house is mine!




Interesting videos... I hope they help

Having watched a good deal of these videos,

Am I the only one who thinks that a lot of the techniques and information is misleading and sometimes just outright hocum?

Very well presented and produced, but it comes across to me like the real focus here is to establish this random guy as an expert, then to cash in.
No harm in that, and business is business.
Just rubs me up the wrong way.

But i'm more concerned with the many things mentioned in these videos that just don't add up, make sense, or mislead.
Problem is it's all said with such confidence, that people will just lap it up.

Originally Posted by spaceexplorer

Having watched a good deal of these videos,

Am I the only one who thinks that a lot of the techniques and information is misleading and sometimes just outright hocum?

Very well presented and produced, but it comes across to me like the real focus here is to establish this random guy as an expert, then to cash in.
No harm in that, and business is business.
Just rubs me up the wrong way.

But i'm more concerned with the many things mentioned in these videos that just don't add up, make sense, or mislead.
Problem is it's all said with such confidence, that people will just lap it up.

Which stuff didnt add up to you or sounded like it would work in tat video to you? I watched all the videos and was going to try it tonight but i dont want to try some of the stuff if its bs. if you could be any help thanks.

Those videos remind me of a late night Infomercial advertisement. I keep waiting for the guy to throw in a free Shamwow.

The info seemed pretty worthwhile to me.
The stop drop and roll technique, the couple of times I tried it, worked a treat.

So has anyone had success with the lucid timers?

Those videos remind me of a late night Infomercial advertisement. I keep waiting for the guy to throw in a free Shamwow.

^^ Lol wtf? ^^

Jeff, even though this guy denies it, I think you could still be right. The dude could have done his research on what kind of age bracket members of this forum are. He could be purposely acting a little childish and making his online persona very elaborate to get us to support the videos, because he's being awfully defensive to just be some kid random. He could be using computer speak to connect with this target market, because you're right... it doesn't quite add up.. and that initial spiel was too clever and concise to be the same kid that has frequent grammatical spelling mistakes and seems to have a 13 year old mental capacity.

I don't like internet con artists one bit, and this guy fits the Bill (excuse the pun) precisely. Fishy if you ask me... very fishy.

Originally Posted by spaceexplorer

Having watched a good deal of these videos,

Am I the only one who thinks that a lot of the techniques and information is misleading and sometimes just outright hocum?

Very well presented and produced, but it comes across to me like the real focus here is to establish this random guy as an expert, then to cash in.
No harm in that, and business is business.
Just rubs me up the wrong way.

But i'm more concerned with the many things mentioned in these videos that just don't add up, make sense, or mislead.
Problem is it's all said with such confidence, that people will just lap it up.

I agree 110%, it really irks me, and I know a lot of people are watching them and it's just maknig things more confused and inaccurate. Ugh.