Thread: **CrazyInSane's WILD tutorial!!**

Here are the recommended intervals:
8, 4, 8, 12, 16, 20, 20, 6, 6, 6
or
10, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 25, 7.5, 7.5, 7.5
or
12, 6, 12, 18, 24, 30, 30, 9, 9, 9

Pick one based on how quickly you can fall back asleep and whether or not you wake up successfully on each beep. You'll want to start the timer after 5-6 hours of sleep. Don't move, think, or do anything at all when the timer goes off except go right back to sleep. If you wake up in sleep paralysis, then go ahead and do a OBE if you want, otherwise do some visualization and induce a lucid. You should have spontaneous lucids on the longer intervals as well, which is the reason for the random intervals (to trick your mind). I personally think the timer only works well for people who sleep really well and can fall asleep quickly consistently. If you're that type of person, than this is probably the easiest way for you to succeed.

Originally Posted by kingofhypocrites

Here are the recommended intervals:
8, 4, 8, 12, 16, 20, 20, 6, 6, 6
or
10, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 25, 7.5, 7.5, 7.5
or
12, 6, 12, 18, 24, 30, 30, 9, 9, 9

Pick one based on how quickly you can fall back asleep and whether or not you wake up successfully on each beep. You'll want to start the timer after 5-6 hours of sleep. Don't move, think, or do anything at all when the timer goes off except go right back to sleep. If you wake up in sleep paralysis, then go ahead and do a OBE if you want, otherwise do some visualization and induce a lucid. You should have spontaneous lucids on the longer intervals as well, which is the reason for the random intervals (to trick your mind). I personally think the timer only works well for people who sleep really well and can fall asleep quickly consistently. If you're that type of person, than this is probably the easiest way for you to succeed.

Thank you for your words of wisdom.

I feel I kind of know how often I can go to sleep when i'm "woken up" by alarms/sounds. I will add some minutes onto some of the longer periods so I can get to sleep w/o it beeping at me.

I will have an update tomorrow.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by kingofhypocrites

Here are the recommended intervals:
8, 4, 8, 12, 16, 20, 20, 6, 6, 6
or
10, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 25, 7.5, 7.5, 7.5
or
12, 6, 12, 18, 24, 30, 30, 9, 9, 9

Pick one based on how quickly you can fall back asleep and whether or not you wake up successfully on each beep. You'll want to start the timer after 5-6 hours of sleep. Don't move, think, or do anything at all when the timer goes off except go right back to sleep. If you wake up in sleep paralysis, then go ahead and do a OBE if you want, otherwise do some visualization and induce a lucid. You should have spontaneous lucids on the longer intervals as well, which is the reason for the random intervals (to trick your mind). I personally think the timer only works well for people who sleep really well and can fall asleep quickly consistently. If you're that type of person, than this is probably the easiest way for you to succeed.

Hello,

I use the default 4 minute ramp settings with a 30 minute delay as the first setting to give me time to fall back to sleep but I'm always still awake when the first alarm goes after 30 mins. So I start all over again and I sometimes fall asleep within the half hour gap at the beginning. But I have it set at a very high volume and I only recall about 3 or four alarm calls. Would you suggest a 3 or a 5 minute interval please? P.S. I have had one LD using this timer

Thank you all for your replies!
I dunno if this has anything to do with my problem, but when I get into that sort-of-SP I don't see any hypnagogic images, just darkness.
However, tonight I tried your method out, and I think it might work for me, but then I have a problem: the things I imagine don't seem to be real, I can still feel my body and it's just like watching a movie, so, could you please give me more details?
Just imagine doing it and report to me what you do/feel/think/etc. (hope not to be annoying, but I got the feeling I'm very close to my goal, and this makes me SO anxious..)

I have finished reading the book by Michael Raduga on what to do when one wakes up to have a LD. There are plenty of techniques, including the tinnitus one that crazyinsane uses. It is a great instruction manual and guidebook on how to have success quickly. It can be downloaded free from http://books.obe4u.com/

I have this same problem. It sounds like your timer is not starting inside your REM cycle. This is probably why you sleep through a lot of the beeps. I also strongly feel this technique does not work well unless you can fall asleep quickly consistently. Make sure you start the timer after 4-6 hours and keep testing until you find that sweet spot in your last rem cycle. 2 hours is a big window so it takes a lot of experimentation. But once you find it and assuming you fall asleep normally, this should allow you to wake up since you won't be in deep sleep (and correctly in a rem phrase). Also if you sleep too long it can be harder to fall asleep, which is another reason this works better for good sleepers. I have tinnitus so I've been tempted to try your tinnitus technique. All texts on tinnitus say not to focus on it so it or it will make it worse, so I have been afraid. When I say I have tinnitus, I mean 24/7 and loud.

Originally Posted by kingofhypocrites

I have this same problem. It sounds like your timer is not starting inside your REM cycle. This is probably why you sleep through a lot of the beeps. I also strongly feel this technique does not work well unless you can fall asleep quickly consistently. Make sure you start the timer after 4-6 hours and keep testing until you find that sweet spot in your last rem cycle. 2 hours is a big window so it takes a lot of experimentation. But once you find it and assuming you fall asleep normally, this should allow you to wake up since you won't be in deep sleep (and correctly in a rem phrase). Also if you sleep too long it can be harder to fall asleep, which is another reason this works better for good sleepers. I have tinnitus so I've been tempted to try your tinnitus technique. All texts on tinnitus say not to focus on it so it or it will make it worse, so I have been afraid. When I say I have tinnitus, I mean 24/7 and loud.

Thanks for the tips. Im going to give up the timer for a few days and follow the books advice in my last post as I won't have the problems with the timer. Instead of the tinnitus method try the visuals or 'phantom wiggling' technique instead in the above described book.