Last night i tried to wild, i counted past 1000 breaths this time but i couldn't dream, and the dreams that i had today i couldn't get lucid. I'm not sure how much time passed while i was counting but i'd say about 15 to 25 minutes probably. I got to the point where my whole body especially my legs were numb, but once again for some reason i didn't experience hi or sp. I'd love to experience sp again, its been a few weeks since i have, i like sp and i think sp is fun. How long do you think i should have waited? A little bit later i'm going to try another wild this afternoon, i got up today around 1 or 2 o'clock today, i really love wilds and i think they're fun even though i've had more deilds.