Thread: Falling Asleep while WILDing

I've gone through each of your questions, and I am satisfied with my responses. Your questions now have me thinking: is my problem with WILDing one that I have to pinpoint myself? By that I mean, do I have the chosen method (the generic WBTB+WILD) down correctly thus far, I just need to try it again? Is it now that I just need to find out what works for me in terms of WILDing methods, and that I'm doing correctly (according to how the method is laid out) the method I'm currently attempting?

Also, how many WILDs have you had work for you? I don't see it indicated in your signature and am curious about your experiences with WILDs.

Originally Posted by Clyde Machine

I've gone through each of your questions, and I am satisfied with my responses. Your questions now have me thinking: is my problem with WILDing one that I have to pinpoint myself? By that I mean, do I have the chosen method (the generic WBTB+WILD) down correctly thus far, I just need to try it again? Is it now that I just need to find out what works for me in terms of WILDing methods, and that I'm doing correctly (according to how the method is laid out) the method I'm currently attempting?

Also, how many WILDs have you had work for you? I don't see it indicated in your signature and am curious about your experiences with WILDs.

Thats right you will never WILD just like anyone else. You have to find what works for you; everyone does. Round pegs don't fit square holes very well. For me it makes more sense that becuase we all see things differently we all need our own approach. When does a cookie cutter approach work? Only when you are making cookies! he he he

It is helpful to listen to others stories to find inspiration on how we could do it and there will be similarities. However, no one could ever know what works for us but us. Only we know. We can see that this is true when we notice our individuality. If we were the same then there would only be one way but there are many ways and there are many people.

Observe, Explore, Discover & above all else have fun! Right? I mean what else do you want from life?

To answer another questions. I WILD nearly every night. Some WILDs are much wilder than others. Everytime I WILD I look for ways I can improve.

I have never had a WILD experience that was exactly the same as another. I use different approaches depending on what is appropriate for the moment. I WILD sitting up & laying down. I want to be able to WILD anywhere and I am finding new ways to do it the more I do it. =0)

As far as my lucid count I don't. As a matter of fact once I decided to quit keeping count I enjoyed hi level lucid dreams more frequently. I can tell this week I have had over 8 lucid dreams & I have WILDed successfully 5 times.

By the way I have found napping WILDs to be the best as I have a wonkey sleep schedule. It is never the same. Not only that but for me WILDing at night is easier than morning.

Happy Trails ;o)

P.S. I have tried the method you have described and had some success as well. I just find other ways more enjoyable.

More enjoyable you say? I guess there really is more to WILDing experimentation than I originally thought....

Thanks for the insights. I wanted to ask my last question without the predictable "everyone's WILDing experience is different, you can't be doing it 'wrong'" response, but the way that you put it, that seems to be the only response to my questions I've been pondering and asking.

I'll keep some things noted on a notepad before I go to bed tonight, and I'll try several different things before I report back here - unless I'm successful in WILDing before I try other things after tonight.

Thanks for everything thus far, I'll report back here when I've tried more things.

You're welcome. See ya around dream time! =0)

I seem to have the same problems as well. I have tried the counting the numbers in my head trick and it seems to work, keeping me up longer (as long as I can keep my focus on counting).

@Hijo de la Luna: See you around!

@Jhony: Although I'm not really in position to be giving advice on WILDing, I'd recommend starting with DILDs first. I see in your goals in your signature that you have yet to get your first LD? While I've seen that there is no prerequisite techniques or anything like that for general methods of induction, WILD tends to be more difficult than DILD, so you might consider going with DILDs before WILDing.

However, that's entirely up to you. If you'd like to continue working on WILDing, I'd like to ask you this: how do you usually do your WILDing? Do you just try WILDing before going to sleep, or do you WBTB as well as WILD, like I've been trying to do? Also, if you're doing a WBTB first, how long do you sleep before you wake up? Sounds like, from the limited details you gave, that you're just not getting enough sleep prior.

I would think that it's the same problem I've had a couple times. Though I've barely started to experiment with WILD.
The problem might be that you fall asleep into non-lucid that you can't remember or (in my case) if you're doing it when you take a nap in the afternoon, you're not in your REM cycle and you have a dreamless sleep.

Originally Posted by Clyde Machine

@Hijo de la Luna: See you around!

@Jhony: Although I'm not really in position to be giving advice on WILDing, I'd recommend starting with DILDs first. I see in your goals in your signature that you have yet to get your first LD? While I've seen that there is no prerequisite techniques or anything like that for general methods of induction, WILD tends to be more difficult than DILD, so you might consider going with DILDs before WILDing.

However, that's entirely up to you. If you'd like to continue working on WILDing, I'd like to ask you this: how do you usually do your WILDing? Do you just try WILDing before going to sleep, or do you WBTB as well as WILD, like I've been trying to do? Also, if you're doing a WBTB first, how long do you sleep before you wake up? Sounds like, from the limited details you gave, that you're just not getting enough sleep prior.

Sorry for the late reply. No way for me to know if anyone commented back on my posts unless I re-look over them.

And yeah, I do think getting a DILD is easier than a WILD. From the last time I posted, I actually got a DILD (my first), but that was just random as I was not doing any reality checks before (lazy).

I've started the "90 Days to a WILD" program just to see if it was possible with no luck yet (other than my random DILD dream).

I'll be happy to do a DILD as long as I'm able to achieve a lucid dream faster, it's just the process of doing reality checks and all that I get lazy on and don't do.

i have that experience when i wild too early in the morning. after i've had 7 or 8 hours of sleep i am much more likely to stay awake.

but it's a tradeoff because it's easier to fall back asleep into WILD mode when it's earlier.

find that "goldilocks" time...

also i read that one is more likely to REM when the room is slightly cold.

and i like the idea of putting in MILD suggestions. That's a win-win. But i learned that it can take a while for MILD to work, so patience is important.

Originally Posted by beachgirl

also i read that one is more likely to REM when the room is slightly cold.

It seems like that would make it harder to fall asleep though.

i've read this... and i get it... i can't sleep if the room is too hot.

i sleep better in a cool room. i'm not talking COLD... but cool....

i've read it elsewhere but just googled this: (i am not sure where i read it originally)...

In most cases, temperatures above 75 degrees Fahrenheit and below 54 degrees will disrupt sleep, but even sleep researchers fail to agree on an exact temperature for sleep. The point at which sleep is interrupted due to temperature or climate conditions varies from person to person and can be affected by bed clothes and bedding materials selected by the sleeper. In general, most sleep scientists believe that a slightly cool room contributes to good sleep. This is because it mimics what occurs inside the body when the body's internal temperature drops during the night to its lowest level. (For good sleepers, this occurs about four hours after they begin sleeping.) How Can ChiliPadTM help? In general, sleep scientists recommend keeping your room slightly cool -- but achieving the ideal temperature isn't always simple. A slightly cool room allows for a more restful sleep while in the REM phase.

https://www.chilitechnology.com/about.php

o.o It lets you change the temperature of your mattress? That's pretty cool.

I love it when the room is cold and then I get to snuggle up under my blankets and be all warm. =) I think I've heard of the internal temperature drops during sleep. Or maybe it was something else. In any case, it said that keeping your feet warm is good for sleep because it helps your core temperature drop (I think).

In my case it's much easier that when I wake up after 5 hours of sleep, is that going to the toilet with lights on is much more better to wild because it wakes me up and wakes my mind up so I don't go to sleep.
The main thing is to wake your mind up and increase your minds activaty.

Originally Posted by Hidden

o.o It lets you change the temperature of your mattress? That's pretty cool.

I love it when the room is cold and then I get to snuggle up under my blankets and be all warm. =) I think I've heard of the internal temperature drops during sleep. Or maybe it was something else. In any case, it said that keeping your feet warm is good for sleep because it helps your core temperature drop (I think).

You would be correct that your internal body temperature drops during sleep. Funny you should mention that now, I've got my psychology book open right in front of me (I was about to scan/print the sleep cycle graph in it to better help with my efforts in the 90 Days Wild project).

The book (Discovering Psychology Fourth Edition, Hockenbury and Hockenbury) says that one of your normal circadian rhythms, body temperature, typically peaks at 99 degrees F around 4:00PM, and typically dips to 97 degrees F around 4:00AM.

EDIT:

I know what you mean . I face a similiar thing every time i try to WILD . I stay relaxed for some time , get my body paralised (?) and then some strange feeling rushes through my body and insted of seeing dark background while having my eyes closed i start seeing white . I can also hear some kind of a noise , like the wind rushing through your head on high speed . It feels like its the only chance to breakthrough and have a LD but i ussualy spoil it , and then i fall asleep.

So yea i kinda know what you're saying