The WILD variation thread

[Taromon777]

I have one that I haven't released to the general public yet. It is the CCILD or Complex Character Induced Lucid Dream. Basically, you come up with a character that has many 'facets' to them, like you would for writing a long story. Then, make them 'come to life' in your mind. When you go to bed or during a WBTB, strike up conversation that is interesting and can go on for a long time, while ignoring whatever sensations you experience. Eventually, you can enter an LD. The way this works is that keeping the conversation going requires logic. The flow is also a means of tracking how you are doing. (random tangent = losing it a little) For more detail, I have a thread in research. I've used this to break my year-long dry spell, but I still need more proof before i give it over to the noobs. (It seems a little nutty, and I would rather have a real, working technique for those starting out than a made up one that can drive people away.) Sounds like a good idea, I've created some characters for my novel so I could talk to them! (In fact it was them who I was playing football with.)

[Sesquipedalian]

beachgirl: First off, I think that the CCILD is a WILD in the fact that it does not use a mantra to set off a DILD. It uses a constantly changing subject to keep the mind working. (check on the definitions if you have any doubts) Second, REM does not require the suspension of logic, as far as I'm aware. How can you have LDs if you have absolutely no logic? How could you remember goals at all? In any case, it should keep you aware enough to make it into a dream while still conscious. THAT is an LD. (if you are aware of it) Taromon: Thanks, I have two more threads up if you need any info. I would love to hear how it works from as many people as possible.

[beachgirl]

hey... good point about the WILD vs. MILD re the logic: i heard the neo-cortex is "down" which explains the weird logic we get in dreams but i am not a dream scientist warmly, bg~~~

[IndigoGhost]

hey... good point about the WILD vs. MILD re the logic: i heard the neo-cortex is "down" which explains the weird logic we get in dreams but i am not a dream scientist warmly, bgg~~~ Thats pretty much correct

[Alexander1656]

Thats pretty much correct But when we go lucid that part of our brain goes back on

[beachgirl]

Quote: But when we go lucid that part of our brain goes back on interesting point... do you know how fully it comes back on? for example in hypnagogic states, aren't we far more impressionable, for example? so does it come fully on or just partially?

[LouieO]

It depends on the level of lucidity. If you're fully lucid it should be entirely (or nearly entirely) on, but if the lucidity is extremely low level it might be very lightly activated (for lack of a better term)