Thread: DEILD problem

Originally Posted by JenJ

Hi
I am trying to lucid dream using the DEILD technique.

I wake up from after my dream and i don't move or open my eyes. But the problem is i just fall asleep again 10 seconds later.
I have read other tutorials on this technique but no one mentions about this problem that can happen.

How do i keep my mind awake? I tried focusing on breathing and have tried focusing on my last dream that i had, but nothing seems to work i just fall asleep.

Are there any tricks to keeping mind awake that i don't know about?
Maybe this technique isn't for me, not sure.

It's just that alot of people say this is so easy and never mention about how hard it is to actually stay awake.

Thanks

I've DEILD'd three times... each time I never was awake for more than 10 seconds Essentially, a DEILD (Dream Exit Induced Lucid Dream) is a VERY shortened version of a WILD. Admittedly, each time was slightly unintentional... meaning I DEILD'd "by accident."

All I really mean by this is... I didn't wake up and think, "I am going to DEILD now." It was more of a "What a great dream, I don't want it to end yet." The tricky bit is being aware enough that in the back of my head, I know I'm going back into the dream with control this time. But not focusing TOO strongly on it. I can't always replicate my DEILDing, unfortunately. It's a very delicate balance

But what happened for me on those few occasions is this.

I was having a vivid dream (mine tend to be anyways, so that's nothing abnormal) and I just wasn't really ready to wake up yet. The first time I woke up, it's because a dream character tried to talk to me and it dissolved my dream. The other times it was for no apparent reason.

Each time though, I was really not actually willing to get up. I wanted to sleep some more, so this helped. Each time as I fell back to sleep I

a) Hadn't moved from the position I woke up from (fairly important step - it helps).
b) my mind was solidly focused on the last scene I just woke up from. Only as I was focused on it, I also had this thought in the back of my head that just knew it was a dream.

To explain what it was like while focusing on the scene... I was mainly just focusing on what had just happened, and daydreaming about what could have happened next. While knowing it was a dream.

I think it's important that I woke up naturally (no alarms).
I didn't move.
I was in that dizzy, heavy, not ready to actually wake up state.
I was solidly focused on the dream that was. That very last scene. I intended for that dream to carry on.

It's almost like the scene just swallowed up around me and I just kind of "knew" that it was a dream and not a day dream. It moves around you without your influence. As soon as you feel this, stabilize the dream! Take control of yourself first before you start running around and summoning stuff and trying to fly Gotta make sure your dream is solid

Often times, you'll find the scene has changed just slightly. People usually disappear when I DEILD. Or something in the scenery changes.

This *has* failed me in the past. Things that generally fail a DEILD for me are... lack of focus on the scene that was. Sometimes, when I wake up and I think about the scene that was; my mind drifts back into sleep but without control over the last scene. Like I drift off to something different altogether and I don't have that thought that I'm dreaming.

Lack of focus on the fact that I am dreaming and falling back to sleep. That thought really has to be present in my mind somewhere. Usually it's, "I want this dream back."

Anyways, I hope this helps!

Nice explanation, Eternalstar. That pretty much sums up my attitude to DEILD-ing. One other thing I do though is try to trick my senses. If I've woken up just enough to know the dream is ending, I am usually still relaxed enough to imagine seeing and feeling things in the dream scene. I imagine being back in the dream, but also picking things up, or moving around, feeling surfaces. (feel the muscles move etc) I have to simulate these feelings myself at first, but after a few seconds, the dream comes back- making it "real", and hanging on to something is a good way to help draw yourself in.