Thread: What happened? Post Your WILD Attempts, Good or Bad, Here

I'm beginning to feel like I'm being trolled...

Originally Posted by TDHXIII

Hopefully my last concern. An example of how your attempts go at the end would help me with this one:
What exactly is supposed to happen after i ignore the noise? You said a dream, but how so?
Would i just be thrown into a dream randomly?
See some dreamlets?
Go into a FA while still laying down?
^ Stuff similar to these?

The entire point of a WILD is to lucid dream. When you reach the dream, you really ought to know, all by yourself, that you are dreaming. I assume that you have had dreams in the past, so you will know what it feels like to be dreaming. Providing an example of a dream (aka, where you go at the end of a WILD) seems a bit absurd to me.

You would not be "thrown into a dream randomly." The dream is the result of making a WILD transition, and it was your goal all along. I do not understand why you consider the dream itself to be some sort of step; it is where you have been working to arrive all along. If you are unable to recognize when you finally are dreaming, perhaps LD'ing is not the thing for you.

Is it really fine to ignore it all and go autopilot-mode? Without any anchors or mantras during this period, will i potentially lose my awareness?

I never said anything about "autopilot mode," or working without any anchors or mantras during this period (or any other period). I have no idea where you got that, but it was not from me.

It is a bit frustrating, TDHXIII, that I have spent so much time answering your questions and offering advice, and this is all you have managed to hear (which is why I think I am being trolled). In any case, I am not going to go into it all again. If you actually read my WILD class, as I've been asking you to do repeatedly, you would not need to ask any of these questions.

This may be the last thing that's really bugging me about the whole WILD process. I would understand everything, but get confused at the end because i don't know how i'm supposed to go into the dream the way i'm meant to. It would be helpful to see an example of how a typical attempt ends with a dream.

I am not sure an example would be helpful. You are not "going into a dream," you are simply dreaming, and aware that you are doing so. If you are unsure what a dream is, then, again, this might not be an activity you should be doing.

WILD as i have been doing it up until now:
I lay down comfortably as if i were going to sleep, then i would notice my natural urge to roll over to my back after a few moments. I count while keeping my mind empty keeping the goal of going to sleep first and foremost. I notice the noises, i decide to ignore them.

It really would have been nice if you read the WILD class, TDHXIII, or at least remembered our discussion about using counting as an anchor. I also never said anything about keeping your mind empty, either, as that certainly wouldn't help. On top of all that, I have no idea where you came up with considering the rollover urge a step in the process. The whole process you describe here has little to nothing to do with anything I've been talking about with you here or in my class. It's fine if you want your process to be this way, but why do you keep pressing me with questions about it if you have no interest in making any adjustments to your original plan, aside from a nod to the noise?

Sorry this is so rude, TDHXIII; I guess you've pushed me to the end of my patience; if you have done so purposely, I really do not appreciate it. If it was not on purpose, well, I guess I simply am not understanding you, and am failing to help you anyway. Regardless, since you apparently have no interest in listening to what I've been saying (or what I'm saying is not effective), this will be the last time I respond to you. If you have more questions, please take them elsewhere. I'm sorry, but I really don't have time to keep saying the same things over and over for apparently no reason at all.

Originally Posted by cooleymd

TDHXIII:

if your confusion about knowing if your dreaming comes from it being possible to be asleep and dreaming that you are still attempting to WILD that could certainly happen. perhaps some people just know their dreaming and certainly the WILD is one of the surest ways to get to the knowing your dreaming stage. but for most people there is only one way and that is to do a reality check so if you unsure your dreaming then do one if it fail to detect you're dreaming return to the WILD if you succeed in discovering that you're dreaming then jump out the window and fly or something.

One reason to open your eyes might be to try the reverse blink, where you suddenly open and close your eyes during the WILD attempt.

I am no expert at WILD as I have only even DEILD once but maybe those were some of the things you were actually getting at instead of trolling. When ever I have tried to WILD it has taken forever to reach paralysis and then I get bored and wiggle my fingers to break out. I have lay there paralyzed for 15+ minutes and never seen a single image. Maybe I'll try again sometime but WILD isn't for everyone.

Ignore my previous post as i asked a question in a very stupid and confusing way. I get what you mean, but from here on out i'll fix things myself. Thanks for replying anyways.

Originally Posted by Sageous

I'm beginning to feel like I'm being trolled...

Very poorly conveyed on my part.. I added really stupid points in my previous post. I'm bad at explaining things and it was apparent something like this would happen eventually. Whatever the case, i learned a lot of things these past months and i have been dragging it all over the ground as it seems.

Thanks for the help and patience. I relied too much on this thread but i'll do the rest on my own. And sorry for wasting your time.

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Both | I will fix things on my own from here onwards. I do know the point of WILD and the process, but i poorly worded a question using terms that imply that i'm doing something totally different. I'm not good at explaining things, but that's not a free pass for writing confusing and tedius posts for so long as 4~5 months. Despite the confusion, i was able to complete the WILD process a few times, and so i can say for sure that i can fix the rest on my own now.