Thread: Cuss words

The right wing wants to oppress kids.

because the people that like using swear words love the fact that it has such a naughty connotation. It's win-win. Don't mess up a good thing.

Dreamsickle, why should it be considered naughty? They are just words, society just amazes me sometimes. I bet no one would be able to come with an argument to as why they are bad...

Society has defined swear words to be very insulting, so when someone uses one, it's assumed that the person is trying to be rude, and people take offence to that. That is the only justification I can find for why swearing might be bad in some cases. But I think people who believe that the only possible use of swearing is to be rude and vulgar, and believe that people who swear must be uneducated, are wrong.

Dianeva I agree with that 100 percent. The rules of society amaze me sometimes...

Originally Posted by bradysdreaming

Dreamsickle, why should it be considered naughty? They are just words, society just amazes me sometimes. I bet no one would be able to come with an argument to as why they are bad...

Historically, it's peasant vernacular, and it exists in most cultures across the globe. The lower classes genuinely prefer more crude language and descriptions, while the upper classes prefer to describe things in a more extravagant and eloquent manner (or a 'holier' manner).

I heard a story that Jingle Bells originally was full of swears, and that as the song became popular they replaced them with 'fa lalalala lalalala'

There's also the case of certain words, like 'pregnant', that people believed would arouse thoughts of sexual activity. You couldn't say it on TV 50 years ago.

Do I win the bet?

What bet? EDIT: Oh, I am so stupid. No you don't. That just explains why people think they are bad. I meant, why shouldn't we use them? Why are they really bad? Who are they hurting?

Shit piss cunt fuck cocksucker motherfucker tits.

Like that?

Swears are like a stress reliever, really. Funny story, today I pretty much destroyed the passenger side mirror on my car. I felt a little better about that fun fact after a myriad of awful words came from my mouth. If there were small children in the car, they would've been scarred for life.

Hmmmm... I kind of have mixed views on it. I get the logic of what you're saying, but at the same time it's been ingrained in me that "swearing is BAD!". Doesn't mean I don't do it though...Hehe

I just hate it when people go over the top with it. When EVERY sentence has some form of swearing in it. I also try to not swear when I'm around kids, although it just kind of slips out. I also hate hearing children swear because... I dunno... I feel like kids these days are growing up too quickly. The other day I saw a 10 year old in make-up and short clothing and thought "Hell, at her age I was climbing trees and having berry fights with my friends!"

Originally Posted by bradysdreaming

What bet? EDIT: Oh, I am so stupid. No you don't. That just explains why people think they are bad. I meant, why shouldn't we use them? Why are they really bad? Who are they hurting?

What if someone called you a cunt as opposed to a jerk?

Originally Posted by Raspberry

I just hate it when people go over the top with it. When EVERY sentence has some form of swearing in it.

In that case, I'd agree. I don't like when I hear someone (usually teenagers) who swear every second sentence. I dislike it, not because I'm offended at their swearing, but for the same reason I might be irritated when people use the word 'like' every few words, or a lot of cliche phrases. Because in these cases, I think the person's vocabulary, and by extension the growth of their mind and ability to think clearly, is likely being stunted. It just hurts to listen to them.

Nice try dreamsicle, but I never mentioned rude insults. I was talking about swearing. Too answer your irrelevant question though, I honestly wouldn't care...

If the words have the same meaning, why don't you just use the word "poop," instead?

Just something to think about. Heh.

I do agree with Dianeva. The words are meant to carry vulgar meaning. That is why people use them. They are supposed to be obscene (and thus, not appropriate in certain situations). There is a lot to be said for people who can "control" themselves, and know when something is just plain inappropriate.

It's like someone standing up on their desk and whipping their dick out in class. It's a sign of complete disrespect, and an inability to control oneself, for the sake of feeling like "I do what I want!"

But with that being said; shit fuck cocksucker cunt-faced dick!

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

It's like someone standing up on their desk and whipping their dick out in class.

A guy in my chem class done this. Peed in a bin because the teacher didn't let him go to the toilet. The class went nuts. He kinda disappeared after that... I guess the school kicked him out, although my school doesn't usually tend to do that. Maybe he got put on a part-time timetable. Meh. I'm kinda glad he had his back to me

Originally Posted by bradysdreaming

Nice try dreamsicle, but I never mentioned rude insults. I was talking about swearing. Too answer your irrelevant question though, I honestly wouldn't care...

it's totally fucking relevant.

Oneironaut I don't agree with you. Saying fuck is not anything like whipping out your dick and showing everyone. Also, I don't have a problem saying poop. I wasn't bitching ( sorry, complaining oops ) about what word I could say. I was just thought the whole swearing thing was stupid and would make an interesting discussion. I do, however like your argument. They could be meant to have a vulgar meaning, in some cases. However, what is the difference between damn and darn. If you think about it, shouldn't darn be curse word? No, because society sees a difference. For some reason it is appropriate for me to say darn but not damn. Come on, if you think about it, it is so stupid.

Originally Posted by bradysdreaming

Oneironaut I don't agree with you. Saying fuck is not anything like whipping out your dick and showing everyone

Why not?

Originally Posted by bradysdreaming

Saying fuck is not anything like whipping out your dick and showing everyone.

It's nowhere near as extreme, but it's the same type of thing. A show of vulgarity and intentional rudeness.

Words are only words. I don't agree with people saying that they are inappropriate because people have labeled them as obscene and insulting. If you are angry and want to insult somebody, you can either call them a cunt or a jerk, but your feelings of anger may be the same. Words are subjective based on the person using them. If you can know this, you shouldn't be more insulted more by somebody using a curse word than a more socially appropriate word. On the other hand, I suppose that a majority of people tend to use swear words more when they are angry. I do not, so this may be where my views are coming from. I swear evenly throughout most of my speaking with those I am comfortable enough to swear around.

As for people who use it every sentence, this is not as much offensive as it is annoying. It's like choosing to insert any other word randomly into every sentence.

They are cuss words because we don't want 5 year olds running around saying, "Fuck you asshole!"

Why do people say "cuss", is the word curse that bad?

I find it funny to see how curse words are perceived in different languages. In Canadian French, most curse words come from terms of the Catholic church. "Fuck" and its derivatives are also perfectly acceptable in daytime french television/radio (even on the news).

To me, swearing feels a lot more satisfying while expressing anger or even just expressing a strong opinion about something because society views it as bad. It gives me a bit of a feeling like I'm breaking societal rules and am not falling for their bs belief that swearing is bad. This might sound a bit immature, but after considering it, I think this might be the case for many people.

I think it might be the reason why Stephen Fry, the guy in the video I posted above, likes occasional swearing. So, if I'm right, the benefits of swearing which he discusses in the video only exist because most people don't see the benefit and only view it as vulgar.

Edit: I'm not talking about a childish feeling of rebellion, more like the feeling of being in a philosophy class and hearing the teacher swear, and you know he's doing it because he sees beyond stupid societal rules like 'swearing is bad' and is swearing partially for the purpose of expressing this. If everyone swore, this positive use of swearing would disappear.

I don't feel like I was entirely clear in explaining this.

Originally Posted by Raspberry

A guy in my chem class done this. Peed in a bin because the teacher didn't let him go to the toilet. The class went nuts. He kinda disappeared after that... I guess the school kicked him out, although my school doesn't usually tend to do that. Maybe he got put on a part-time timetable. Meh. I'm kinda glad he had his back to me

That's the most awesome fucking thing I've ever fucking heard. It fucking serves the fucking teacher right for trying to exercise fucking control over some other fucking organisms fucking bodily functions. I hope the fucking teacher learned his/her fucking lesson.

OP: because words have meanings. That's why they're words.

Herpa derpy dur, Xei wins thread again.