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      Difficulty with successful wild

      Cross post from my DJ:
      This is my second success with a wild. Sort of let's say...

      Also for the second time I feel like I have a long delay from falling asleep and discovering myself in my room lying on my bed but in a dream.

      The first time was shocking and didn't know what to do, also doubt about being actually awake. Not this time. But I was paralyzed. I could touch my body without being able to move my arms, or to better say: I could feel being touched where I wanted to put my hands. Then I could finally move but with enormous difficulty. I realize not being in my bedroom because the wardrobe with the big mirror was gone. This is a big problem for me because I always use the mirror to go out of the room. So I go through the door and I find myself another time in the bed. The movements become more difficult as they were not difficult enough. I decide that this time I try using the window, but as soon as I am out of the bed I find myself belly in the bed. Ready check, I'm awake. I can now move normally.


      Why do I have so many issues in lucid coming from wild? And also: I was thinking that during wild you maintain the conscience during the whole process, but what Haydn's to me is that I lose the conscious for a while and I enter lucid in my dream. Feedback anyone? Thank you very much in advance!

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      ^^ At a glance, DeDromer, I would say that you might be paying a bit too much attention to your body, be it dream or physical.

      Since, once in a dream, your body is nothing more than just another projection of your imagination, a DC created by your dreaming mind, it really is a good idea to avoid expecting it to do what it would do easily in waking life. Trying to move your dream body, physically, can indeed be difficult, especially in the early moments of a LD, because you are sending signals to a physical body that is currently ignoring you (because it's asleep), and your dreaming mind/unconscious has not yet "programmed" your DC body to respond to your requests. This is because, in a real sense, it doesn't know yet that "You" are present, giving commands that might not match the given dream parameters.

      I would suggest that, should this happen again, you avoiding trying to get up in a typical physical motion to move. Instead, try something different, like allowing yourself to sink into your bed, or perhaps just lie there and imagine you are in a different dream scene... if you can confidently expect a change of scene, and a little traveling without even considering moving any legs or arms, you might find yourself more able to navigate your dream, and to change its scenery.

      Speaking of that: using your bedroom mirror is a good idea (though you might not need it anymore, should you try the stuff I said above), but it wasn't that it was missing that was your problem; it was that you decided, in the dream, that it was a problem. Doing that will likely make it a problem, I think... I'm not surprised at all that walking through the door yielded those results, because your feeling of loss for the missing mirror led your dreaming mind to reset, rather than send you somewhere else... I bet the mirror would have been there, too, had you gotten a chance to look around before waking (sometimes you need to look twice, BTW).

      Finally, if you lose track of your waking-life consciousness during a WILD and then find yourself lucid, you've actually completed a DILD transition instead of a WILD. But be assured there is nothing wrong with that; lucid is lucid, right?
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      Hey Sageous thank you very much for your reply!
      I never thought about trying to move myself without moving the body. I have to give it a try!

      On the last point I'm confused.
      I was doing a wild, then I experienced a loss of memory/conscience, then I wake up in the dream.
      But not like a fake awakening. I just knew I was dreaming since the first moment. Literally I woke up in a dream.

      It happened also another time. My other lucid were all DILD, half of which coming from false awakenings, and it was different. Here I even didn't transition from normal to lucid. I was immediately lucid.

      So if it wasn't a wild, but also not a DILD, what was it?
      (By the way 100% with you, a lucid is a lucid )

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      ^^ A DILD simply means that you transitioned to the LD during a dream.

      DILD's can certainly happen right at the beginning of a dream. This is especially true if you were attempting a WILD when you went to sleep, because that would mean your mind was already primed for lucidity when you lost consciousness. So, since you were in the process of attempting a WILD when you went to sleep non-lucidly, your DILD happened at its first opportunity, which was right when the dream started.

      This happens more often than you might think. A fairly high percentage of the WILD accounts I've reviewed included a loss of consciousness, so lots of people are following up their failed WILD attemps with a successful DILD.
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      Oh that's clear and fantastic to hear too It looks like I'm doing well after all
      Just I need to learn how to deal in this case as I have more problems than normal, but hopefully by following your advice I will succeed Thanks again!
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