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      Quote Originally Posted by nicromno View Post
      What is the relationship between quantum mechanics and classical chaos?
      Clarification: If quantum mechanics does not demonstrate an exponential sensitivity to initial conditions, how can exponential sensitivity to initial conditions arise in classical chaos, which must be the correspondence principle limit of quantum mechanics?
      So the said Quantum mechanic does not demonstrate sensitivity? He learned that from his old man who was a marine. The classic chaos is just worn thin by people selling him short, true he is not even a machanic, but who wants greesy fingers all the time when you suffer from exponential sensitivity to intial conditions. Those inital conditions were likely an over pertective mother, who would not let him become a mechanic.

      But we are talking about the realation between the two.You see classic chaos was raised by his single mom who had been dumped by a marine deisel machanic. The deisel mechanic got a young phyics teacher pregnent and they had quantum, who ended up also becoming a mechanic. That makes it clear :What is the relationship between quantum mechanics and classical chaos? A: They are half brothers on the fraternal side.
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      Quote Originally Posted by sivason View Post
      So the said Quantum mechanic does not demonstrate sensitivity? He learned that from his old man who was a marine. The classic chaos is just worn thin by people selling him short, true he is not even a machanic, but who wants greesy fingers all the time when you suffer from exponential sensitivity to intial conditions. Those inital conditions were likely an over pertective mother, who would not let him become a mechanic.

      But we are talking about the realation between the two.You see classic chaos was raised by his single mom who had been dumped by a marine deisel machanic. The deisel mechanic got a young phyics teacher pregnent and they had quantum, who ended up also becoming a mechanic. That makes it clear :What is the relationship between quantum mechanics and classical chaos? A: They are half brothers on the fraternal side.
      Your post just cheered me up.

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      Does God have the power to make suffering unnecessary without there being a problem with doing so?
      How do you know you are not dreaming right now?

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      Quote Originally Posted by nicromno
      What is the relationship between quantum mechanics and classical chaos?
      Wiki Quote on Chaos Theory:
      "It can be difficult to tell from data whether a physical or other observed process is random or chaotic, because in practice no time series consists of pure 'signal.' There will always be some form of corrupting noise, even if it is present as round-off or truncation error. Thus any real time series, even if mostly deterministic, will contain some randomness."

      In my estimation, Quantum Mechanics is interpreting the behavior of "chaotic" systems on a subatomic scale. Reducing the the quantum scale fleshes out the boundaries between deterministic systems...among other things..

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      Does God have the power to make suffering unnecessary without there being a problem with doing so?
      yes...create a being more powerful than any other you have created...Then take everything that is bad about you and put it into him...Then send him to the same place you have created your favorite beings...humans...Remember to name him Lucifer, which being interpreted means light bringer...Make him more beautiful, and awe inspiring then anything else...

      Then, when his "badness" begins to poison his "favored creation", blame it on him...the devil...

      Suffering is not necessary anymore than eating is necessary. Its just a part of life.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      I think the true answer to my question is somewhere in your part about nonexistence not being a possiblity. It has something to do with that. The problem with answering the question is that cause is a form of existence, so any cause you can suggest raises the question of what caused it. The impossiblity of nonexistence, because nonexistence by definition doesn't exist, doesn't have to have a cause. It is the one place I think clearly qualifies as at least the foundation for the answer. My brain continues to be tied in knots over this after decades of it. I love the issue, though.
      Yeah I used to fret about this, too. Then I realised what was going on. Turns out it was also pretty much sorted out by Hume, 250 years ago. Bring it up in the philosophy board if you'd like, though I'm pretty sure I made a long post on it before and I'll probably just find that and copy it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Chimpertainment View Post
      yes...create a being more powerful than any other you have created...Then take everything that is bad about you and put it into him...Then send him to the same place you have created your favorite beings...humans...Remember to name him Lucifer, which being interpreted means light bringer...Make him more beautiful, and awe inspiring then anything else...

      Then, when his "badness" begins to poison his "favored creation", blame it on him...the devil...

      Suffering is not necessary anymore than eating is necessary. Its just a part of life.
      Aha! Then suffering is unnecessary but he wants to play crazy games with it. Others claim that it is necessary for God to allow suffering to exist. The idea seems to be that God is infinitely powerful yet must follow certain rules of reality he created so humans can have free will, as if we actually do, because free will is so much more important than not burning forever, though burning forever involves not having free will. I think I get it! :yumdumdoodledum:

      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      Yeah I used to fret about this, too. Then I realised what was going on. Turns out it was also pretty much sorted out by Hume, 250 years ago. Bring it up in the philosophy board if you'd like, though I'm pretty sure I made a long post on it before and I'll probably just find that and copy it.
      All right. I started a thread on it a long time ago in Philosophy. I am not sure if I should necro it or start a new one. Maybe somebody else has started a thread on it in recent times.
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      Quote Originally Posted by UniversalMind
      Aha! Then suffering is unnecessary but he wants to play crazy games with it
      Yes But remember, in this game your eternal soul is on the line...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Chimpertainment View Post
      Yes But remember, in this game your eternal soul is on the line...
      God is in huge trouble for not believeing in Supergod. He claims that there is honestly not enough evidence. I'm afraid that just doesn't cut it. There is nothing more evil than being confused and unconvinced.
      How do you know you are not dreaming right now?

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      Because you already found them...
      I mean I don't have a boyfriend right now and am still waiting for that "someone" so how will I know that it's "HIM"
      you want question^_^, this is really sincere question of mine

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      Quote Originally Posted by jetta86s View Post
      I mean I don't have a boyfriend right now and am still waiting for that "someone" so how will I know that it's "HIM"
      There is no such thing as soul mates...You have to give up on ideas of perfection and accept who you are. When you accept yourself, you will find the perfect person. This is why you have already found them. Everyone's soul mate is themselves, they just project that image onto another. Forget about finding them, just live your life and it will happen in good time.

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