Thread: Tell me, Are people actually "going green"

The Prius Syndrome:
Some people think that by buying an expensive half electric, half gasoline car (Toyota Prius) they save the world.

If you buy the Prius you don't make a real difference, you only make yourself look green. You're only helping Toyota produce more new cars... Using even more of the worlds resources. If you want to save the world, you need to change you lifestyle and NOT you image.


Amen to what I just wrote =)

Yea Prius'es don't actual save that much money in the long run.

Originally Posted by Elite

Yea Prius'es don't actual save that much money in the long run.

Hybrids of today are just concepts... Fuelcells are teh WIN. Fuelcells are awesome in almost every way.

Originally Posted by Holiace

The Prius Syndrome:
Some people think that by buying an expensive half electric, half gasoline car (Toyota Prius) they save the world.

Some people think that by putting their text in giant bold colored letters it somehow carries more importance or is more believable.

If you buy the Prius you don't make a real difference, you only make yourself look green. You're only helping Toyota produce more new cars... Using even more of the worlds resources. If you want to save the world, you need to change you lifestyle and NOT you image.

You apparently know little of what causes change, whether good or bad. Obviously one Prius doesn't make a lot of difference, but the point is to make the manufacturing of fuel-efficient cars more profitable, so that Toyota and others reduce the overall auto-emissions through attrition.

Originally Posted by Holiace

Hybrids of today are just concepts... Fuelcells are teh WIN. Fuelcells are awesome in almost every way.

One of the processes on makes fuel sells involves petroleum... believe it or not... I don't too much about it though... have you seen the movie who killed the electric car? It’s on there and it explains a lot better then I can.

Originally Posted by Xox

Hey, those are really good reasons. I've been a vegetarian for a few months. Do you have any other reasons to get me motivated? =D

Well, guess what we spray on that 80% of farmland that's used for cattle?

Pesticides. Fertilizers.

Pesticides present problems due to bioaccumilation. Nasty carcinogens build up as trophic levels do (that's how DDT hurt birds of prey). We've yet to see mutant/weak babies in our population, though (actually, fertility rates in the U.S. have gone down, but I can't prove a correlation between the two).

Fertilizers are basically nitrates and phosphates. When it rains, or the crop is watered, the crap runs into streams and such, and ends up in lakes and oceans. This causes algal bloom, and dead zones. Of course, the runoff problem is attributed to bad farming practice, and lack of buffer zones (wetland habitat).

Originally Posted by Abra

It's recommended that a human only eats a chunk of meat the size of a deck of cards per day. =D

hmm i eat about the size of a...like 10 decks of cards

I'm completely committing myself to public transportation when possible, but that's about it. I don't consider myself "going green," that just a slogan invented by oil companies so they can pretend they're apart of the solution. Too bad we have just a few more years to completely remove ourselves from using a limited CO2 admitting toxins before the climate change process becomes irreversible.

Only going as green as encouraging my mom to get a car with higher MPG so as to save money.

Man, Nuclear Power is awesome. They're also able to recycle/reprocess a lot of that nuclear waste into more energy. If people are concerned about polution they should really look into nuclear. The result isn't some gas being pumped into the air or something unseeable, it's a highly containable substance that can be, well, contained. Plus it's cheap and can supply a lot of energy. If there weren't so many restrictions on it state-side we could be seeing huge advances in private research here.

yea but, remember chernobyl?

imagine 2-4 nuclear plants every state, if they meltdown, were FUCKED...

Cher. was a while ago and was the result of horrible government inefficency, corruption within the Union.

If we want to look domestically (U.S.) we can look the Three Mile Incident. Critics often point to this as one of the disastrous results of a Nuclear Program, but one only has to look at the actual outcome of the incident to see that the opposite is true. The plant underwent a partial core melt down, and radioactive material was released, but the affect was mostly contained. There were no deaths and negligible changes in cancer rates or other related diseases. The panic was a result of anti-nuclear hype and frenzy that was rampant before and after the incident.

I say nuclear power is awesome!
I really don't do much, the way I see it is we're trying to preserve something thats already gone...

They are engineering E. Coli to make petrolium. And disite popular belief, ethanol is worse for the environment then gasoline is.

nuclear power... is murphys laws best friend...
and that creepy guy who tells you to trust him... NEVER TRUST THER CREEPER!

well my electric runs off nuclear so I shouldn't be complaining really...phoenix runs off nuclear

there was a fire near or at the plant last month, kinda made my heart jump for a moment when I heard that haha..but it was nothing just a tiny fire

It may be a fad(I just saw a recycling shirt in Urban Outfitters(popular trendy store) yesterday) but the results are the same.

On Saturday, March 29, 2008, Earth Hour invites people around the world to turn off their lights for one hour

wonderful cause true.
I/m just upset that it's only an hour
for most people,
past this hour they continue to neglect our planet

One hour, of one day, every year...

...

It's a start, but it wasn't what I was hoping. Perhaps in a few years, the majority will participate.

Bam, counterpoint.

http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=5157

Things I have done last year, to do my part and go "green"

Yup gas when up AGAIN

I thought I would conserve gas, why you say? I wanted to do something nice for the environment.

I started to walk or bike where I need to go instead of driving

I bought 5 batteries & solar panels to store power for working & operating small stuff.

I made a wind turbine for about $120, yes made one. Works too!
How did I do that, I followed this site.

Hope to hook up wind turbine with the solar panel system this year.
Sure glad no one has started to tax the sun or wind.

Yet that is.