Thread: Do you always get Sleep Paralyses when...

when you have lucid dreams (before/after) ?

Do you?

No.

i always fail to licud dream (ends up sleeping till the morning)
they say it is very scary when you have sleep paralyses before a lucid dream or after and i wondered if it could happen everytime

Originally Posted by Shhahin

i always fail to licud dream (ends up sleeping till the morning)
they say it is very scary when you have sleep paralyses before a lucid dream or after and i wondered if it could happen everytime

Who's they?

Most of the time it's not really scary.

Originally Posted by Supernova

Who's they?

Most of the time it's not really scary.

May I ask how you personally enter sleep paralysis?

The only time I suffered from paralysis is when I tried using self-hypnosis to enter lucid dreaming. It was so uncomfortable I had to exit the state in order to free myself from the hypnotic body lock. I quickly abandoned that method.

Nope, Ive experienced it only a few times while WILDing. The vast majority of the time i don't experience SP at all.

Edit:
And welcome to the forums =)

Most of the time I do, but technically you are suppose to most of the time you sleep. Whether or not it's a sensed time is the issue.
I do WILDs mostly, and most of the time I am successful I sense it.

You only get sleep paralysis if you are doing WILD, it really has nothing to do with lucid dreams themselves.

Originally Posted by MadMonkey

You only get sleep paralysis if you are doing WILD, it really has nothing to do with lucid dreams themselves.

If you know you need sleep paralysis in order to WILD, why would you suggest it has nothing to do with lucid dreaming?

Sleep paralysis is related to lucid dreams, in fact, it's the medium for many people to enter them.

Originally Posted by Jay12341235

If you know you need sleep paralysis in order to WILD, why would you suggest it has nothing to do with lucid dreaming?

Sleep paralysis is related to lucid dreams, in fact, it's the medium for many people to enter them.

Bingo. I can rarely lucid dream without sp. You actually experience sp every single night that you sleep, its just you dont know it because well, your asleep....

Whenever i begin to enter sp im like "omg yes time to ld!" When you start to enter sp, once you get that ringing noise and the freaky sensation, you just have to remain calm and begin to visualize where you will b e when the dream starts and voila, darkness fades to light and you are now in your dream. Thats how i do it anyway.

The only time SP has ever really scared me is before i actually knew what it was. Rare times i would wakeup in the middle of the night, however my body would still be asleep, and it freaks you out because you cant move, you can look around, but you damn sure cant move, cant even yell, but you just have to remain calm and struggle a bit to get out of it, this is all if you happene to WAKE during sp, its very rare however, but it can be scary.

The important thing is to learn to induce SP by "tricking" the mind. This is done usually during WBTB's when youve been asleep for atleast 5 hours sometimes 4 and a half, and you go back to sleep, but keep the mind concious. do whatever it takes, even if you have to resort to doing math problems in your head. Eventually you will just start to get that SP because you havent moved your body, yet you kept your mind awake, your body begins the process of sleep, but the mind is awake. SP just really serves a lucid dreamer as a marker and alarm of when to begin to visualize the dream.

I hope this makes sense.

Originally Posted by Elem3nt0

Bingo. I can rarely lucid dream without sp. You actually experience sp every single night that you sleep, its just you dont know it because well, your asleep....

Whenever i begin to enter sp im like "omg yes time to ld!" When you start to enter sp, once you get that ringing noise and the freaky sensation, you just have to remain calm and begin to visualize where you will b e when the dream starts and voila, darkness fades to light and you are now in your dream. Thats how i do it anyway.

The only time SP has ever really scared me is before i actually knew what it was. Rare times i would wakeup in the middle of the night, however my body would still be asleep, and it freaks you out because you cant move, you can look around, but you damn sure cant move, cant even yell, but you just have to remain calm and struggle a bit to get out of it, this is all if you happene to WAKE during sp, its very rare however, but it can be scary.

The important thing is to learn to induce SP by "tricking" the mind. This is done usually during WBTB's when youve been asleep for atleast 5 hours sometimes 4 and a half, and you go back to sleep, but keep the mind concious. do whatever it takes, even if you have to resort to doing math problems in your head. Eventually you will just start to get that SP because you havent moved your body, yet you kept your mind awake, your body begins the process of sleep, but the mind is awake. SP just really serves a lucid dreamer as a marker and alarm of when to begin to visualize the dream.

I hope this makes sense.

Makes perfect sense. Do you have the feeling your head is expanding or getting big and little at the same time before you get SP?

Did you take afternoon naps before the nights when you got it randomly?

Happy dreaming

Originally Posted by Jay12341235

Makes perfect sense. Do you have the feeling your head is expanding or getting big and little at the same time before you get SP?

Did you take afternoon naps before the nights when you got it randomly?

Happy dreaming

No, not that i recall, but i do know what feeling you speak of, and man i hate it. Also, no, not many naps.

When I said it has nothing to do with lucid dreaming itseflt I ment that they are seperate things and you can have lucid dreams without ever feeling sleep paralysis. I knew I wasn't wording it well at the time but I didn't have time to find a better way of stating it.

To avoid confusion, sleep paralysis is an anomaly while REM atonia occurs naturally every night. REM atonia shuts down our motor skills or we would all be sleep walkers. Some suggest sleep paralysis and REM atonia are the same thing but , during sleep paralysis the sleeper become conscious of the paralysis. This can be very frightening and produce vivid hallucinations.

Every WILD I induce is preceded by sleep paralysis. I welcome the feeling because I know I'm then on the road to success. Never once I am teleported into a dream world, however: I open my eyes, can't move, and then roll out of my body into a dream version of my room.

I know what feeling you mean, but no i dont have that certain feeling when i dream. Its usually a very simple process, but lately, i havent had many LD's since i stopped writing in my dream journal. the more i wrote the more LD i would have, now i hardly ever have any.