Thread: Dreams are not based on real life

I just read on the net and also experienced it for myself....the dream story is not from waking life and neither is it about waking life it comes from another source belonging to the subconscious. So my question is since it is not about or from waking life how can reality checks be done in a dream or the awareness that one could be in a dream? The only way I had lucid dreams was by MILD but even so it's very difficult to exactly get the idea through...another thing mentioned was the lack of memory in the dream and evidently the lack of memory to do a reality check.

IMJ

Idk were you get this. Dreams are drastically influenced by waking life. Parts might come from the subconscious but I don't see how that's relevant.

Dreams are based on your waking life. I don't quite understand what you're saying.

They might not be based on it, but they definitely take influence from it. That's how you have feelings and see people you know etc.

Originally Posted by imj

I just read on the net and also experienced it for myself....the dream story is not from waking life and neither is it about waking life it comes from another source belonging to the subconscious.

When you make bold, declarative statements such as this, it's usually customary to provide references. This is, of course, unless you don't mind everyone automatically assuming it's BS, which kind of defeats the purpose of saying it in the first place.

Bold and declarative? It's just a discussion I had opened but you people are so sensitive to lucid dreaming issues that you immediately see it as a threat of confidence that lucid dreaming isn't real or possible, I never said that so snap out of that obsession FGS. ALSO I SAID DREAM STORY...NOT DREAM MATERIAL! THE STUFF DREAMS ARE MADE UP OF IS FROM WAKING LIFE BUT NOT THE STORY..and then you ask for proof....Erm..maybe you could find that out yourself before saying it is BS? It's not that hard if you would pay more attention to normal dreams instead of JUST wanting to be lucid....As for my info source I read it minutes before posting this and other sites I did not book mark them...What Dreams May Come Come Not From Waking Memory Anyways I rarely post anything here because I know the mentality of asking for proof instead of finding it out themselves....and then calling everything BS except their own BS thinking being BS. And of course dream BSly and not learn anything but whine about it.

IMJ

Originally Posted by imj

Bold and declarative? It's just a discussion I had opened but you people are so sensitive to lucid dreaming issues that you immediately see it as a threat of confidence that lucid dreaming isn't real or possible, I never said that so snap out of that obsession FGS. ALSO I SAID DREAM STORY...NOT DREAM MATERIAL! THE STUFF DREAMS ARE MADE UP OF IS FROM WAKING LIFE BUT NOT THE STORY..As for my info source I read it minutes before posting this and other sites I did not book mark them...What Dreams May Come Come Not From Waking Memory So in future I guess I'd have to post things that people want to see and not what they don't want to see. Anyways I rarely post anything here because I know the mentality....calling everything BS except their own BS thinking being BS. And of course dream BSly and not learn anything but whine about it.

IMJ

Oh, please. Playing victim when you weren't even being attacked? The statement was declarative in the fact that it was a declaration, and bold in the sense that - since both your title and your OP were vaguely worded - it came across as you were trying to state that dream content was not based on waking life. (Obviously I wasn't alone in my interpretation.) If you simply would have corrected us and been more specific (without going on your little tirade) then you wouldn't have projected yourself into drama queen status, as you just did.

If you meant just the story as you said (after the fact), then I apologize for the misunderstanding. But, judging by how quickly you over-reacted, and your assessment of the "mentality" here at DV, I don't think we're missing out all that much, by your posting here so rarely. Of course, you can also learn to not be so touchy. It might help discussions actually progress (which is what I was trying to do by explaining the importance of providing references to your claims).

Originally Posted by imj

Bold and declarative? It's just a discussion I had opened but you people are so sensitive to lucid dreaming issues that you immediately see it as a threat of confidence that lucid dreaming isn't real or possible, I never said that so snap out of that obsession FGS. ALSO I SAID DREAM STORY...NOT DREAM MATERIAL! THE STUFF DREAMS ARE MADE UP OF IS FROM WAKING LIFE BUT NOT THE STORY..and then you ask for proof....Erm..maybe you could find that out yourself before saying it is BS? It's not that hard if you would pay more attention to normal dreams instead of JUST wanting to be lucid....As for my info source I read it minutes before posting this and other sites I did not book mark them...What Dreams May Come Come Not From Waking Memory Anyways I rarely post anything here because I know the mentality of asking for proof instead of finding it out themselves....and then calling everything BS except their own BS thinking being BS. And of course dream BSly and not learn anything but whine about it.

IMJ

Really because when I incubate a dream sometimes my dreams do end up the way I incubated it.

Oh and when I watch a movie sometimes my dream I's based off the movie.

The majority of my non-lucid dreams take many aspects from my waking life: People, objects, events, and waking life problems are all present in some form or another, even if they aren't exactly the same as they are in my waking life.

I think the subconscious takes many of these aspects, and turns them into a metaphor of sorts. The story isn't usually the same as waking life, no, but the people, problems, etc. are. They are just presented differently, if that makes any sense.

In my experience, i have found that dreams are based on real life. Most of what i have done and/or seen during the day normally relate to me in my dreams. Obviously in the dream world the reality is changed slightly, however i have realized for myself that my thoughts that are suppressed during the day, usually come up in my dreams. Its as though my mind let's out everything in my dreams, of which i would have kept to myself in waking life. That's just my experience though.

Dreams usually have stuff from real life but it is often a huge jumbled mess. Things from a day a go mix with things from years ago, which mix to random stuff your mind creates from who knows where.

You are right in that you usually lack memory in dreams, and "remembering" to do a reality check usually fails. The point of doing regular realities check is to build it into a habit though. So that you do them without thinking, or needing to remember to do them. So you see a sign, then automatically you do it. Like a reaction. That is why you want to keep it simple. Like you see a specific object or image, you do the check.

You have to remember that people have like 6 dreams a night, every night, for their entire life. So you have something like 2000 dreams a year, though you probably don't remember that many. With that many dreams though, things are bound to repeat and reoccur. If something only happens in 1% of your dreams, that is still 20 times a year you will see it. And two lucid dreams a month would be pretty good for some people. Ideally you have dream signs that occur more often than that though, so that you are seeing it a lot.

Originally Posted by imj

I just read on the net and also experienced it for myself....the dream story is not from waking life and neither is it about waking life it comes from another source belonging to the subconscious. So my question is since it is not about or from waking life how can reality checks be done in a dream or the awareness that one could be in a dream? The only way I had lucid dreams was by MILD but even so it's very difficult to exactly get the idea through...another thing mentioned was the lack of memory in the dream and evidently the lack of memory to do a reality check.
IMJ

for almost all of my dreams, I can look back through the day and think what made that come into my dream. So some dreams are based on real life.