Thread: This is how a true lucid dreamer should think!!!

Yes...yes we can. I'm not ready to reply to you yet origami, lots of stuff going on and exams to ace.

Oh sure, you need to study, thats why you can't just type out a 3 minute reply. You're still testing me, in a way.

But I already told you, I think I have it figured out.
All I need to do is ADA. Doing so will gradually give me the belief and skills to become aware in a dream. I just need to stick with it and I have it.

Wow, when this thread first came about it motivated me so.......which I am sure was the whole point of the thread.......

Meh....idk anymore....

ok no keyboardwarriors anymore here!
for origami:
1. write on the hand "ADA" to remind yourself to do that.(or other sign..)
2.Do RC's aswell. It is very helpful for beginners.
3.After you do the rc, just question your reality. it is a dream? if not why? prove it
4. try imagining everything is a dream... look at people and imagine they are DC's
5.Let go all the stress... do not work so hard for a LD. just remind yourself you can make it easy and before you go to bed visualise for 10 minutes what are you going to do in the LD...
6. Try to WILD. maybe you have talent there...


Now Mr.Marley and Imj.. you have clarified what you wanted to say... You posts now have no purpose and they have to be deleted. Please if you are good guys delete your "fighting" posts. Do not let this thread die...

Wow, when this thread first came about it motivated me so.......which I am sure was the whole point of the thread.......

Meh....idk anymore....

this is the reaction of your fighting on the forum...
peace and love for everybody! sweet dreams!

Originally Posted by pichulick

ok no keyboardwarriors anymore here!
for origami:
1. write on the hand "ADA" to remind yourself to do that.(or other sign..)
2.Do RC's aswell. It is very helpful for beginners.
3.After you do the rc, just question your reality. it is a dream? if not why? prove it
4. try imagining everything is a dream... look at people and imagine they are DC's
5.Let go all the stress... do not work so hard for a LD. just remind yourself you can make it easy and before you go to bed visualise for 10 minutes what are you going to do in the LD...
6. Try to WILD. maybe you have talent there...


Now Mr.Marley and Imj.. you have clarified what you wanted to say... You posts now have no purpose and they have to be deleted. Please if you are good guys delete your "fighting" posts. Do not let this thread die...

this is the reaction of your fighting on the forum...
peace and love for everybody! sweet dreams!

Yeah man, you're right. I just realised what that whole thing was, and it did no good, IMJ, I shouldn't have told you to delete your post, sorry. As to everyone else, sorry for the disruption, I'll gladly delete those posts.

BROTHER ORIGAMI!!!, I guess all thats said has already been said, but I'll just say what I mean. Don't worry, you're doing everything necessary to have a lucid dream, I didn't make that too explicit so that YOU could decide for YOURSELF if you were doing enough, its that belief in self that you need to have, knowing who you are. That's very important, not just in lucid dreaming but in life. I'm trying to help you as a person too, don't ask why, I just want to, so, to have that belief in self you need to leeeet gooooo of your worries. That's the important bit, you needs to ease up, that whatever your worries are they aren't the be all and end all, not by a mile. Once you do that, you'll realise what Yoda was on about, there is no hard. There are no restrictions, and the best part is, it's true ;D. LUCID DREAMING! You are gold here dude, keep doing what you're doing. To me, ADA is the only way in terms of passively inducing a lucid dream, try WILDing aswell, GREAT method for inducing a LD actively, and don't get too cut up if you're not seeing results IMMEDIATELY here, it takes time. In fact ,you should read the thread I started on my WILDing progress, I think it would be useful.. Link.. HYA > http://www.dreamviews.com/f79/need-h...-ld-sp-115475/
Don't even look at taking supplements, magic spells and running around in circles while reading a book about lucid dreaming. In my opinion, just leave reality checks altogether, you'll have much higher lucidity and vividness from being aware than from checking if this is reality. You KNOW its reality, it's just tricking the brain needlessly. You're fine man, you'll have that LD soon.

BUT! One thing you absolutely have to do first, is find your dream guide. Don't do anything first other than that, stabilise the dream by being aware, then shout for your dream guide. Don't even fly dude, don't go magicking stuff out of thin air, PROMISE ME that you will find your dream guide FIRST. You MUST do this.

Good luck brother Origami, I know you'll do it. Simple as that, you'll do it, there's no question about it to ME lol.

That paragraph was diamonds. My dreams since I have started ADA (about 5) have been trending like this: First night: 7/10, 7, 6, 5, then last night, 9/10. Two of those dreams, last nights and one of the 7s were quite vivid. One was some fighter character, and all the armour and stuff on him was just super clear. Last nights was a miniature dinosaur model in it's box, it was really vivid.
It is clear that ADA is affecting my dreams, increasing vividness. I drew up a graph to represent the scores my dreams got so far since I started. Thats about 45 dreams so far, trending at about 6-7/10, dipping a few times and other times spiking. Only ADA seems to so far have a positive consistent increase.

I know I'm going to LD. I now also am positive that my dreams are going to get even longer and more vivid, and with the ADA practice, I will start to gain more control.

I also took into account the "no worries" bit of your post. I have tests coming up, and I don't normally stress about them, they don't really matter, just end of year stuff. Then I think it's summer holidays straight after, which makes me really happy, and really relaxed.
I try WILDs pretty much every morning, but so far I just nod off and dream a few fragments. How do I take advantage of these?

To sum up, I can almost feel that LD coming. Before it was around the corner, now it's straight ahead.

I'm going to write a list of what I want to do in an LD when it comes. Finding my dream guide was going to be on it, but not at the top. I heard that it is very hard, so I thought simple things would be nice to start off with. I KNOW I KNOW, there is no hard or greater difficulty, it's more like saving the best 'til later.

Why is it of no.1 importance to you? I will go and try to find them, but why first?

I can't tell you why first, but you HAVE to do this first, IT ISN'T HARD. Don't let people tell you what's hard and not, you know this, you said you know, so act on it. You HAVE to have to do this, please don't do ANYTHING else first. You have to trust me on this one, just do that first, if it doesn't happen your first lucid, try and try again until it does. But it will. It'll be a lot quicker for you than other people, that I know.

Ok, I will do it first. I was going to do it after a fly around and stuff, but Il do it straight after a stabilization.

. Thank you.

For WILDs, try to always do them as a WBTB, my thread will be really useful to you in the whole process of learning to WILD, so check it out. Do a WBTB when you can, and find a nice time slot to stay up, try 15 minutes, if you're too alert, try 10, if not that try 5 etc, trial and error. But, don't expect your first lucid to come from a WILD as im sure you don't, tis ADA all the way.

EDIT: If you have any questions you want to ask me, ask away man

Ok, well I did try it this morning. I woke up at around 7ish, then got out of bed, and stood around me room until I wasn't so groggy and bleary. I went back to bed, tried to get some sleep, and I guess dozed off a while later. I had a few more fragment dreams (as I usually do), but no chance of lucidity or anything. Wasn't even very vivid.

I have been waking up every morning at 6, just so I can have a lie in (lol), but I always fall back asleep and I always have little fragment dreams. This was the first morning actually getting up out of bed.

Should I stick with it, or just stop waking myself up early just to go back to sleep again?

I'd say leave it, have a LD first before you attempt WILDing again I guess.

Yeah, I'l just keep building on the ADA, getting closer and closer. Eventually I will get to a point where I am ADA'in without even thinking it, then its only a matter of time. Weekend next, that means lie ins, that means more relaxed sleep, that means greater chance Lucids. Come on!

Also, do you have any little things that you do before bed, that you think may be connected to lucid dreaming? Like for me, I go on the computer or on my ps3, maybe have a glass of juice, then wash up and bed. Should I be doing something else? I heard that looking at bright screens and that right before bed is kinda bad for lucid dreaming.

"ahh the force is strong with this one"

Originally Posted by pichulick

YouTube - ‪Yoda Dagobah‬‏
this is the most ammazing and inspiring video!
PLEASE listen to the words of Yoda! Understand them!

Yes! I just read this thread all the way through and I understand Marley's frustration. I'm glad you're starting to understand that there is no 'hard', there is no 'impossible' or 'real'. It's all possible if you know it is possible
Keep doing ADA, you will have a lucid dream very, very soon.

Thanks. Well last night was pretty good. So far my ADA dreams have been a 7/10, 6/10, 5/10, 9/10 then last night an 8/10. I think it's an upward trend that will keep up. Each day of ADA is one step closer to a lucid.

Even if you are a pro at WILD, you still need to work on your awareness. I find that when I let it slip for a week or two, I start losing lucidity in my WILDs. I will have a successful WILD, but after a few minutes, it will convert back into a regular non-lucid dream. Awareness is definitely key.

I know it's key, I know. Just a few more days, until I feel that I have practiced it enough. I can't just believe that I will lucid, but I can believe easier after some practice. I can tell myself I will lucid tonight, but I just won't as in my gut I don't believe it.

Great video. Thank you for sharing.

Originally Posted by dreamcatcher81

"ahh the force is strong with this one"

Precisely

Originally Posted by Origami

Yeah, I'l just keep building on the ADA, getting closer and closer. Eventually I will get to a point where I am ADA'in without even thinking it, then its only a matter of time. Weekend next, that means lie ins, that means more relaxed sleep, that means greater chance Lucids. Come on!

Also, do you have any little things that you do before bed, that you think may be connected to lucid dreaming? Like for me, I go on the computer or on my ps3, maybe have a glass of juice, then wash up and bed. Should I be doing something else? I heard that looking at bright screens and that right before bed is kinda bad for lucid dreaming.

That's great that the quality of your dreams are improving, keep at it, you have that self belief now .

There's little tips and stuff around of things to do before you go to bed, these work but aren't a huge factor. I use my iPod every night before going to sleep and I have lucids even if I do this, had several a couple nights before and yesterday had one. Don't get me wrong though, this isn't good, lol not by a long shot, for my overall health, it's not good at all and I'm going to stop this. Just, do whatever you do normally, I guess work yourself into a small routine, not a lengthy hour long bath then watch tv for 10 mintues then play ps3 or whatever, just like, 10 minute routine and that should be chilled, to turn yaself loose for your nights sleep. Definitely DON'T, use electronics say an hour before you go to sleep, don't get into a bad habit >.<.

Origami sir, I believe you mentioned changing your diet to help with lucid dreaming in that other thread ages ago, if this was you, then sir you were spot on, your intuition is correct. Diet plays a big part in being aware, in any reality... I'm doing a lil experiment to do with this and it seems like it has worked.

I never mentioned anything about my diet, I don't think. I can sorta see how it would affect dreaming, but I don't have any plans to change my diet.
I have a routine before I go to bed, it's usually either gaming online on my ps3, or browsing dreamviews. Then brushing teeth, pjs, then bed. I suppose I have to change this. I will do a test tomorrow night, where I don't use any electronics an hour before bed.

I actually had a funny "dream" this morning. Well firstly I had a quite long one, then I drifted a bit, maybe woke up, then fell asleep, and I remember lying on my right side, in bed, feeling a jaguar or cougar clawing at my mattress from under my bed. I remember thinking if I let S.P. come on, it will go away, so I did, S.P. came on straight away, and then I woke up a second later, on my left side, as if I had just blinked in my dream and opened my eyes and was suddenly on my left side, it was that seamless and fast a transition.

I'm counting this as progress, as this was actually ME in bed, and not just some random place with a 3rd person view over someone random, like my usual dreams. I went to bed/sleep much later last night, could this have been the cause, or am I actually getting somewhere with my dreams?

Yeah, it was some other guy.. anyway I'd recommend you drink shitloads of water, I mean gallons.. so that you go to piss 15+ times in a day. Haha diet helps so much with everything. I had 2 lucids the past 2 days, and I didn't practice awareness once or do a reality check + subconscious stress from exams, lol amazing shit. Didn't have SUPER lucidity but they were vivid and I knew I was dreaming.

Yeah, this is definitely progress, the jaguar thing was probably SP hallucinations in itself. I frequently find myself in SP randomly some nights, randomly on my back too, when I really never sleep on my back at all, lol. If you want to induce SP it definitely helps if you are on your back. So yeah, it's definitely progress. I havent' really mentioned it, but I've had alot of 3rd person dreams the past few weeks, not every dream, like 2 out of 5 per night typically was me being a 3rd person camera. Now, lol that hasn't happened for a week, the change I think is just that these past weeks I'm coming to be myself alot more, and not worrying what other people think, I'm not saying this is it for you, but maybe it'll give some insight. Happy dreaming brother, I have a good feeling about tonight's dreams

Me too. I think my jaguar encounter was not me waking up into S.P. hallucinations, as when I "woke up" to the jaguar, I decided to go into S.P., and when I did, its like the dream was a film, and the reel ended and suddenly I saw the wall as I lay on my left side.

Basically, it went= Dreaming, then I'm on my right side, jaguar, S.P., left side.

I'm not sure what it was, but it was definitely different. Also, last nights dream was surprisingly longer than usual. It had a beginning, then skipped to a different scene in the same story, (oddly enough with a tiger in it, hm.. jaguars and tigers..) then it just finished, I think happily, then other dreams took place.

Also, does it have to be water? Can it maybe be apple/orange juice instead? I don't really drink water, only milk and apple/orange juice in the morning, the apple/orange juice during the day at school, and water at dinner.

Should I be drinking more water, or just more liquids? I have about 6 glasses of liquids a day, 2 of those being water.

Forget counting how many glasses of water you have a day, just drink til you think your bladder will burst. Drink loooooads, and yes it has to be water lol. Do this, and if you're going to do it, then do it, don't do it half-heartedly, so if you don't really want to and won't put effort into it then leave it.