Thread: I hate the finger through hand technique, It only works when I already know I'm dreaming

I understand it's hard to believe that you are dreaming when you know you are not.

But if you had a lucid dream before, when RCing during day, try to recall, even just for one second, that surprise you felt when you realized you dreaming. Think about how realistic your dream was and what if you are dreaming right now, but you will never know, until you RC.

If you just waiting for your first lucid, read some threads or dream journals where people describe, how realistic it all looked. Sometimes even more realistic and detailed and vivid than waking life.

Just try and think about the possibility, that this waking life is actually a dream. That's what Australian aborigenees believe. And you can find this idea in some budhists books, like Sleep and Dream Yoga.

But than again, not all RCs work for everybody. That's why it's good to practice at least 3-4 of them. Happy dreams

Originally Posted by gab

I understand it's hard to believe that you are dreaming when you know you are not.

But if you had a lucid dream before, when RCing during day, try to recall, even just for one second, that surprise you felt when you realized you dreaming. Think about how realistic your dream was and what if you are dreaming right now, but you will never know, until you RC.

If you just waiting for your first lucid, read some threads or dream journals where people describe, how realistic it all looked. Sometimes even more realistic and detailed and vivid than waking life.

Just try and think about the possibility, that this waking life is actually a dream. That's what Australian aborigenees believe. And you can find this idea in some budhists books, like Sleep and Dream Yoga.

But than again, not all RCs work for everybody. That's why it's good to practice at least 3-4 of them. Happy dreams

I do that all the time but when it comes to that reality check, it fails me everytime. the problem is the fact that it can even be difficult to do in Lucid Dreams so of course it wil be even harder in a non lucid one. I chose that one cause it seemed like the easiest and most simplest one to do at the time but it has been highly unreliable at times. I've recently switched to the blowing out of mouth RC because that RC doesn't need belief in order to work. it will work everytime no matter if you believe it will or not. I think the most reliable RC are the ones that work off of typical dream mechanics instead of off ones belief like the pinching nose technique.

Originally Posted by intheworldofnim

I've recently switched to the blowing out of mouth RC because that RC doesn't need belief in order to work.

What is this technique? Keeping your mouth closed and then blowing?

Originally Posted by dms111

What is this technique? Keeping your mouth closed and then blowing?

yep, it's a movement free RC, much better than the "plug your nose" one imo.



heres the thread by atkins513

http://www.dreamviews.com/f11/new-mo...esters-108799/

Originally Posted by intheworldofnim

I've recently switched to the blowing out of mouth RC because that RC doesn't need belief in order to work. it will work everytime no matter if you believe it will or not. I think the most reliable RC are the ones that work off of typical dream mechanics instead of off ones belief like the pinching nose technique.

But blowing out your closed mouth and blowing out your closed nose is the same thing. They work with the same principle.

Originally Posted by dms111

But blowing out your closed mouth and blowing out your closed nose is the same thing. They work with the same principle.

Opps, sry I must of had that rc on the mind when I was talking about the movement free version of it. I meant to say the Finger through hand RC

damnit and I can't edit the post now

Originally Posted by intheworldofnim

I do that all the time but when it comes to that reality check, it fails me everytime. the problem is the fact that it can even be difficult to do in Lucid Dreams so of course it wil be even harder in a non lucid one.

If I understand this right, you are trying to RC in a non-lucid? The thing is, you don't RC in a non lucid, at least not consciously and with purpose. You may happen to RC in non-lucid just as you can do anything else, you think about often during day. But that is not gonna get you lucid.

You become lucid first, because of the awareness training and mantras, and then you RC just to confirm. These two events can be super fast after each other, sometimes it's hard to say, which came first. But in general, you first realize you dreaming, or ask yourself "omg, am I dreaming?" and then you instinctively do RC to confirm.

I never had any say into which RC I will do. It just happens - either my hands show up and I start to count fingers, or I watch myself poke thumb through palm or I'm pinching my nose shut. But those were all just reflexes from the training.

Not sure if this is how it is for others, but this is how it goes down in my lucids.

So I recommend you step up your awareness training to get that first moment of lucidity. Hope this helps.