Similar experiences anyone?

**Rothgar** · 10-01-2012 03:06 PM

Last night I decided to be intentional about having an LD. It had been a week or so since the last one due to stress and cold, but now over that and on vacation. So after WBTB I started a mantra to know when I am dreaming, and fell asleep. Twice I did that, and dreamed, and I knew in my dream I was trying to set the intent. In one of them I said now that the intent was set, next time I fall sleep I may LD, not realizing I was dreaming I had now awakened and was going about my a daily routine thinking I would LD that night. Very frustrating to fail twice that way. So I gave the mantras up and said something like 'remember which reality you are in' to myself, then tried relaxing. After awhile I felt my body swinging across my bed...the toes feeling the mattress. I thought this was probably a good thing...so I went with it and kept it going. I maybe fell asleep but if so very briefly and and these two girls were walking toward me, and I knew immediately I was in a dream and was lucid.

Now, I have had similar feelings of body movement like that. I have never experienced sleep paralysis even though have attempted WILDs before. Is this like an almost WILD that bypasses sleep paralysis by briefly falling asleep? It seems like an almost instanam.t transition, but no SP and no 'becoming aware' but just knowing from the start I am dreaming.

**gab** · 10-01-2012 10:24 PM

It sounds like a regular WILD to me. Even if you fall asleep for a few seconds, it's still a WILD.

And yes, once I had totally intense and realistic sensation of my body doing all kinds of stuff. I have never experienced SP while WILDing either, and I don't expect to. SP happens little later, when you are already asleep and dreaming. So you can expect things to go pretty much same way next time you WILD. Good luck

**Rothgar** · 10-02-2012 12:20 AM

Cool! I wondered if it was a WILD... definitely different from the DILDs where you have to become lucid.

**faceonmars** · 10-02-2012 12:44 AM

I have had many dreams that immediately become lucid at the start of sleep. Technically these would be considered NREM (non-REM) dreaming. I have find these to be the most intense and realistic of all my LD experiences. BTW, I have always felt that hypersensitivity to SP was over-rated.

**gab** · 10-02-2012 01:31 AM

Originally Posted by faceonmars

I have had many dreams that immediately become lucid at the start of sleep. Technically these would be considered NREM (non-REM) dreaming.

I would agree, that at the beginning of sleep those could have been NREM dreams. But, the way I see his description is, that the swaying of his body was already part of falling asleep, and that could have been NREM already. So he was aware during NREM and fell asleep at beginning of REM. But I could be wrong, of course.

**StephenDedalus** · 10-02-2012 03:16 AM

I didn't realize you could have NREM LDs? Are there any external factors that influence becoming lucid during that state, or is it just something that happens every once in a while?

**gab** · 10-02-2012 03:20 AM

Originally Posted by StephenDedalus

I didn't realize you could have NREM LDs? Are there any external factors that influence becoming lucid during that state, or is it just something that happens every once in a while?

We can dream in REM same way as we dream in REM. But it's reported, that NREM dreams are not as vivid, detailed, or good in general, as dreams in REM. So we can have LD during NREM dream. Not sure what it depends on, or if it depends on anything at all.