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      Need someone to get me lucid in a dream

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      I have been practicing lucid dreaming for about a year now. In the beginning I had some great successes although they all came spontaneous .. Very rarely after studying and applying any techniques have I found any success. I have been over them all with a fine tooth comb but nothing has any long lasting effect. I even used galantamine for a while but found that even lost its affect after i realized it was all a placebo effect in the mind.

      What I am here seeking for is for individuals who claim to be avid lucid dreamers to help me become lucid in a dream.

      This is absolutely possible I know without a doubt because I have contacted people in dreams and vice verca. Even people who send me thoughts during the day if I am sleeping I can pick up and translate into dreams.

      I would really appreciate it if someone could find me in a dream and smack me over the head and tell me I AM DREAMING so I too can enjoy lucidity more than a few times a year.

      Thanks in advance.

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      Quote Originally Posted by venn99 View Post
      I even used galantamine for a while but found that even lost its affect after i realized it was all a placebo effect in the mind.
      Galantamine is not a placebo. But if used incorrectly, your system will get desensitized and it will stop working. It's supposed to be used with choline.

      Quote Originally Posted by venn99 View Post
      What I am here seeking for is for individuals who claim to be avid lucid dreamers to help me become lucid in a dream.
      You perhaps didn't mean it that way, but this kind of sounds like if someone can't get you lucid in your dream, he is not an avid lucid dreamer as he claims. Having lucid dreams and dream sharing (on purpose) are two different things.

      Quote Originally Posted by venn99 View Post
      This is absolutely possible I know without a doubt because I have contacted people in dreams and vice verca. Even people who send me thoughts during the day if I am sleeping I can pick up and translate into dreams.
      If you able to do stuff like that, ask the person who's thoughts manifest in your dreams to send you a message to get lucid.

      Quote Originally Posted by venn99 View Post
      I would really appreciate it if someone could find me in a dream and smack me over the head and tell me I AM DREAMING so I too can enjoy lucidity more than a few times a year.
      If dreaming about lucid dreaming, telling someone how to LD, seeing signs saying "Lucid" and "You are dreaming", seeing dragons in the skies, you hovering over a planet, fighting with zombies, or any other crazy thing from your dream doesn't trigger lucidity in you, that's because you have low daytime awareness. You just don't realize you are dreaming. Same will happen if someone told you you are dreaming. It's up to you to raise your awareness to become lucid.

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      Quote Originally Posted by gab View Post
      Galantamine is not a placebo. But if used incorrectly, your system will get desensitized and it will stop working. It's supposed to be used with choline.


      You perhaps didn't mean it that way, but this kind of sounds like if someone can't get you lucid in your dream, he is not an avid lucid dreamer as he claims. Having lucid dreams and dream sharing (on purpose) are two different things.


      If you able to do stuff like that, ask the person who's thoughts manifest in your dreams to send you a message to get lucid.


      If dreaming about lucid dreaming, telling someone how to LD, seeing signs saying "Lucid" and "You are dreaming", seeing dragons in the skies, you hovering over a planet, fighting with zombies, or any other crazy thing from your dream doesn't trigger lucidity in you, that's because you have low daytime awareness. You just don't realize you are dreaming. Same will happen if someone told you you are dreaming. It's up to you to raise your awareness to become lucid.

      Everything is placebo bud. Even all matter. able to be manipulated and altered by consciousness. I know you are going to come back with the argument that placebo is a medical thing where you take a fake pill and it makes you better, when in fact it is your mind creating the reality, which is what I am getting at here. The mind has authority , or spirit over all things when properly attuned. Sure there is some science behind Galantamine and lucid dreaming, but I believe it all hinges on your will and belief. I have had some lucid type experiences with Galantamine, don't get me wrong but nothing like naturally. And the more i took it after the fact the less it worked because I knew results were never ever dependent on the pill due to my first experience taking nothing.

      The very first time I had my full blown lucid dream I dreamed I woke up and took galantime and became lucid however I took nothing. And of course I took it galantamine with choline plenty of times and had minimal results. Nowhere near the results I had from the placebo. I also went months off and on and eventually it lost its effect. It does absolutely NOTHING now and never will again because I know that it was my mind all along. I've taken it under the discretion and guidance of one of stephen laberges lab partners a ten year lucid dreamer so I know I took it correctly and it does nothing now.

      Regarding the thought / dream translation effect. Its about as sporadic as lucid dreaming, but it does happen. It happened today. It seems to be evolving as with my mind, lucid dreaming and the string of precognitive dreams I have been having.

      I think if someone were to tell me I am dreaming I would immediately question my reality because my dreams are very vivid and I am conscious to a degree, although when I do dream, I can read perfectly and my hands are my hands and even with all the common reality checks , it is very hard to determine anything. My dreams very much resemble reality a lot of the time. I would say I am borderline lucid in most of my dreams I just need something to put me over the edge. And if raising my awareness is the key, I would really like to know how to do that, but please don't tell me to ask myself if I am dreaming all day long for months because that doesn't do anything but give me a migraine and is completely counter intuitive.

      And no I didn't really mean anything different about my statement about lucid dreamers. If you can really lucid dream and master your dream reality you should be able to do anything and you should be near God like in the physical realm. Consciously able to manifest at will. The few times I had lucid dreams I was gathering precognitive intelligence that would have transformed my life forever, before demons entered the dream and smashed me in the face with a nail spiked axe. Upon awakening from the dream I spent hours not knowing if I was dreaming and what was real. IT was quite overwhelming actually. I think a lot of people on here who claim to be lucid dreamers are just having really vivid dreams. If there are really any true lucid dreamers , finding me in a dream would not be of any challenge. It would be as simple and thinking it and it is done. There is no difference from this reality and the dream reality . In fact the two are merging as we evolve. We are unlimited multidimensional beings. Like aliens. Next to God in many beliefs. Leading edge creators.. in leading edge bodies. We are only mislead to fully realizing this. The key though I believe is in dreams or at least partially. Theres my two cents.
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      Even all matter. able to be manipulated and altered by consciousness.
      Yes, we all lucid dream because manipulating matter in the "physical world" is just too boring.

      And the more i took it after the fact the less it worked because I knew results were never ever dependent on the pill due to my first experience taking nothing.It does absolutely NOTHING now and never will again because I know that it was my mind all along.
      That's called building up tolerance, not mind over matter, more the opposite...in case you didn't get it, that was what Gab was trying to explain you.

      I would really like to know how to do that, but please don't tell me to ask myself if I am dreaming all day long for months because that doesn't do anything but give me a migraine and is completely counter intuitive.
      Well, if you're asking for advice and rejecting it because yes, I don't know what you're looking for...reality check was demonstrated in studies to be an actual technique to induce lucid dreams. Besides, it's not counter intuitive to use prospective memory, it's present in the majority of the DILD techniques, but I'm guessing you haven't took the time to research it....

      If there are really any true lucid dreamers , finding me in a dream would not be of any challenge.
      For someone who seems to possess such knowledge of lucid dreaming, you seem to continue to ignore the clarification that Gab took the time to write to you: "Having lucid dreams and dream sharing (on purpose) are two different things."

      There is no difference from this reality and the dream reality .
      By all means, then jump off a building after you read this, and post the results.

      We are unlimited multidimensional beings. Like aliens.
      What?

      I don't get why you're coming to a thread asking for "real lucid dreamers" help when you have the wrong definition of what a lucid dreamer is and seem to ignore a very helpful reply made by a moderator. We got some pretty good lucid dreamers here, but I hope you're open-minded enough to realize that they may disagree with a lot of what you just said while still being able to give you good tips. Good luck!
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      Quote Originally Posted by zoth00 View Post
      Yes, we all lucid dream because manipulating matter in the "physical world" is just too boring.









      Well, if you're asking for advice and rejecting it because yes, I don't know what you're looking for...reality check was demonstrated in studies to be an actual technique to induce lucid dreams. Besides, it's not counter intuitive to use prospective memory, it's present in the majority of the DILD techniques, but I'm guessing you haven't took the time to research it....




      For someone who seems to possess such knowledge of lucid dreaming, you seem to continue to ignore the clarification that Gab took the time to write to you: "Having lucid dreams and dream sharing (on purpose) are two different things."

      Again , no real lucid dreamers here or real new ground breaking information, waste of time and banging my head against the wall mostly.

      By all means, then jump off a building after you read this, and post the results.





      What?

      I don't get why you're coming to a thread asking for "real lucid dreamers" help when you have the wrong definition of what a lucid dreamer is and seem to ignore a very helpful reply made by a moderator. We got some pretty good lucid dreamers here, but I hope you're open-minded enough to realize that they may disagree with a lot of what you just said while still being able to give you good tips. Good luck!
      Manipulating matter in the physical is one of the objectives, yes. I could easily accomplish it with more lucid dream awareness experience.

      I never built up a tolerance to it when I went off it for months at a time. I used to be a full fledged asthmatic taking medication daily. I now take no medication. I also don't get sick because I can attribute sickness to dis - ease and negative thought processes and know if and or when I am getting sick all that is required is a shifting of thought. The placebo affect applies to everything. I don't care if you don't get that or what you think about it , it's not changing the fact of what is KNOWN to me.

      Reality checks don't do anything , at all ever FOR ME. In case you haven't read the forums people have all kinds of trouble with ILD's just because something worked for someone doesn't mean it works for everyone. The ILDS and techniques are like religions IMO. They actually prevent you from understanding and knowing yourself and its like a barrier between you and the truth and about lucid dreaming and most are counter intutitive, preventing you from actually becoming self aware. I've researched all the ILDS and they have no value for me and a lot of other people feel the same way by the sounds of reading the forums.

      This reality and the dream reality are the merging between the 3rd and fourth dimensions and will ultimately reach the 5th. I had a near death experience and a life review indicating this and know it is happening and going to happen. Maybe if I was able to merge my consciousness with ideologies better than the useless twit ILD explanations you put fourth and had some real ground breaking new information / true wisdom, I would be able to jump off a building, now wouldn't I.

      I have the exact definition of what a lucid dreamer is bro. I don't care if you or anyone disagrees. It makes no difference to me what you or anyone thinks. What I am saying is I have practiced your idiotic techniques and it doesn't change anything so don't be coming on here acting like you guys know everything and these techniques are the holy grail is bs because they are not and there is more to it (or less) than what you describe here. Go back on the forums and you will see a large part of the people here have little to no success with the ideas put forth and in my opinion can and are being detrimental . Why are you attacking me for putting fourth new questions and ideas? It's not just me so don't attack me for asking real questions and give first grader answers, goof.
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      I'd second all that Zoth pointed out. When you ask a question, you should ask a question. Instead of asking a question, answering it yourself, then disregarding the people who try to answer. I'll try to help out though. About reality checks. I just about altogether gave up on them myself, and as of lately I don't need them anymore. But they did help me tremendously.

      Not because I'd just say "Am I dreaming?" with a passing voice in my head as the day went by. That was where I was going nowhere. I started to think about the raw concept of Reality Checking, like why would it work for some people and not others? What makes it work? I get that basically, if I say it over and over again, then maybe I'll say it one time that I'm actually in a dream and that'll make me realize.

      That's what I used to think should happen. It didn't. Whatever you want to call this, a placebo, misdirected will power. Sometimes it would give me a few moments of lucidity, but it wasn't what I wanted. I didn't want to just randomly be lucid maybe once every other week, I wanted to be there all the time! So that leads to the part that I think will help you a lot Ven if you take it to heart. The dreams at the begining of a lucid dreamers campaign are caused usually by two things. Either a sharp sense of awareness, or luck. Maybe even both? But maintaining the practice of lucid dreaming has only to do with awareness.

      People use the popular term "Awareness at all times." to give it a summary. But you have to come to a true understanding of what that means to progress. It doesn't mean, "Thinking about dreams at all times.". Definitely not. It means thinking about yourself. Thinking about the people you know, or don't know. Thinking about what you are. Thinking about where you are, and how your actions change and effect the things around you. And how those change and effect you. It's developing the mindset that understands what is happening in the present moment to it's best capability. One that is calmly aware of what makes this waking life what it is, and what makes the dreaming realm different. The more you develop the way you view, the things you are viewing- you will have to rely on luck. Luck and hope. I wouldn't go in that direction though.

      On a seperate note, you might believe dream sharing exists but I'm sure you can't prove it. If it does exist I'm sure you don't know how it functions. Or if it can be accessed manually at all. I wouldn't spend any time trying to find someone to find you in a dream. Nobody knows how. An avid lucid dreamer could speculate that they knew how. I have my theories on the topic, but I can honestly tell you I doubt those theories. And... normally when I would put doubt to anyone's theories, they aren't my own. I'm not saying that it isn't possible, in fact I believe to an extent that I've experienced it before. One weekend I went to the mountains to visit some relatives. I was there four days, and on the third night I had a lucid dream. In the dream, I was walking down the street that my house is on. Along side me was my brother Jeremy. We talked and walked down the street, and went into the school. After a while we split up. But a few days later when I was about to tell him about my dream, he told me about a dream he had at the very same night around the same time. He dreamed that he was walking down the same exact street in the same exact fashion, and that we were talking about the dream being a lucid dream. Neither of us expecting though of course, that the other wasn't just a dream projection. So basically, it might be real. But nobody is going to be able to purposely find you in a dream and force you into lucidity. Let alone, find you at all.

      I hope what I said about developing awareness helped as much as it could. It's just a process. Be patient, if you know you want to do this, just relax and know you have the rest of your life to practice. Become more thoughtful of what goes on in your life. It will help you in the long run with dreaming, AND waking up.
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      Hi thanks for trying to be at least helpful. Both you and the moderator. While I disagree on most of your points I respect them as your own and respect that you put forth the effort to help. The only reason I am stating half the stuff that I am in this thread is because I honestly feel that methods CAN be counter productive in SOME instances. I know there is a ton of power and knowledge to be gained from lucid dreaming. I know that with all my heart and soul, but I also feel like it shouldn't be as complicated as this. I have a friend who basically lucid dreams every night. She has never visited a forum, read and ILD or anything. It is just something she naturally does, I would say about 70 percent of the time, however she fails to real take control of the dream and manipulate it to her will to levels that are possible. Like she can't create her dream realities, she can't get specific information from dream characters and so on and so forth. I have only just met her and we are experimenting , but nothing yet. I do know from my past experience that it is possible and I was only here to maybe find someone that feels they can do this. That's it that's all. I know there are varying levels and degrees of dream lucidity and awareness. Some people will never experience certain levels. All I know is that I have experience extreme power and I know what is possible and one reason I face so much resistance when I actually do get up into lucid dreaming by demonic entities and aliens. Wont stop me from trying, actually it probably will, because at this point I am feeling it is more about letting go than anything. Ultimately I want to be able to do this as easy as falling asleep like her, but I think I probably need to stop sabotaging myself and when I say that I mean stopping with the methods and just let it happen naturally like it always has for me as with the methods I don't get anywhere and haven't for months. That's what I mean about the methods being counter intuitive and counter productive, FOR ME, not for everyone. Like others have stated, I am not completely sure if letting go is the answer but I am willing to give it a shot since nothing else seems to work and this is the direction it seems to be taking me as well as the majority of my life journey has, this too should follow suit, anyways thanks again.
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      While i haven't personally experienced it myself, from some things that i read over on forums i know that dream sharing is more than a simple process. It pretty much requires fairly strong connection between one person and another and you can't just walk to a random person and say "Let's share dreams", also you really need to be more open minded for that as well.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Checker666 View Post
      While i haven't personally experienced it myself, from some things that i read over on forums i know that dream sharing is more than a simple process. It pretty much requires fairly strong connection between one person and another and you can't just walk to a random person and say "Let's share dreams", also you really need to be more open minded for that as well.
      That's why I asked the question if there was anyone out there who believes they could accomplish this. If there isn't that is fine. Ultimately I know it's going to boil down to my own efforts and awareness to become lucid, I just thought it would be a different topic of discussion that might spur some interest. All I know was then when I was lucid I could manifest people , places, things, information in my dreams, and sometimes when I have dreams about people, they to have dreams about me.

      Also regarding my previous post, thanks for the ADA information, it definitely sounds interesting, I will have to look into it more. I am open to anything except banging my head against the wall with things that intuitively feel wrong or stressful under any circumstance. What once used to work for me no longer does. I have had successes using ILD's (the common ones) but those are things of the past. I now most commonly rely on DILD's but under no specific regimine, just becoming aware in a dream seems to be the most natural and spontaneous route for me and I don't really do anything specific they just happen.

      The more me and my partner apply ILD's the less success we have and the less frequently we dream in general, that's just the way it is and the way it has been going for us, and that's all I am saying.

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      This reality and the dream re ality are the merging between the 3rd and fourth dimensions and will ultimately reach the 5th. I had a near death experience and a life review indicating this and know it is happening and going to happen. Maybe if I was able to merge my consciousness with ideologies better than the useless twit ILD explanations you put fourth and had some real ground breaking new information / true wisdom, I would be able to jump off a building, now wouldn't I.
      What dimensions are you refering to? Also, when you say life review, are you saying your life was shown to you as a vision?

      Also, you've said quite a few things about manipulating the real material world as if you're absolutely possitive that is possible. Are you? Nobody in documented history has been proved to have been able to do these things. I've dreamed my whole life about using various kinds of 'energies' to bend to my will into the universe. But then I learned a bit more about psychology, physics, biology, and have expended all the resourses I could find in metaphysics. I've learned enough to make an educated statement. IF, having superhuman influence over the material world is possible, lucid dreaming is not related whatsoever to how that could be accomplished. Dreaming, is like a metaphore of all of your condensed thoughts. Where you mind goes consciously and subconsciously, is what the dream portrays. To say someone would have powers of telekynesis, summing people and places, and even creating landscapes in a dream would be a leap. People who can do these things, like yourself and I, only have influence over the direction of our thoughts for some reason or another. In no way can they be considered superpowers in another realm. I've spent enough time consciously in the dreaming state, that it is not a place. It's not a defined dimension, it is a interactive metaphorical screen that bends with our mind. That's actually why I was asking about those dimensions you were talking about. Do those 5 dimensions come from a new age belief system that I'm not aware of or something? If so, I'd like to know more about that.
      We may guess that in dreams life, matter, and vitality, as the earth knows such things, are not necessarily constant; and that time and space do not exist as our waking selves comprehend them. Sometimes I believe that this less material life is our truer life, and that our vain presence on the terraqueous globe is itself the secondary or merely virtual phenomenon." H.P. Lovecraft

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      Quote Originally Posted by Nerq View Post
      What dimensions are you refering to? Also, when you say life review, are you saying your life was shown to you as a vision?

      Also, you've said quite a few things about manipulating the real material world as if you're absolutely possitive that is possible. Are you? Nobody in documented history has been proved to have been able to do these things. I've dreamed my whole life about using various kinds of 'energies' to bend to my will into the universe. But then I learned a bit more about psychology, physics, biology, and have expended all the resourses I could find in metaphysics. I've learned enough to make an educated statement. IF, having superhuman influence over the material world is possible, lucid dreaming is not related whatsoever to how that could be accomplished. Dreaming, is like a metaphore of all of your condensed thoughts. Where you mind goes consciously and subconsciously, is what the dream portrays. To say someone would have powers of telekynesis, summing people and places, and even creating landscapes in a dream would be a leap. People who can do these things, like yourself and I, only have influence over the direction of our thoughts for some reason or another. In no way can they be considered superpowers in another realm. I've spent enough time consciously in the dreaming state, that it is not a place. It's not a defined dimension, it is a interactive metaphorical screen that bends with our mind. That's actually why I was asking about those dimensions you were talking about. Do those 5 dimensions come from a new age belief system that I'm not aware of or something? If so, I'd like to know more about that.
      Yes, my life was shown to me in a vision. One of the main things I recall was me and three other people in a realm of white light. Much of this ties into my relationship with God and Christ, or my understanding of Christ. At the time, all information was known and we were all communicating telepathically. There were no questions only perfect reasons for every grain of sand to every atom everywhere. Everything has a divine purpose and we are going back to this reality

      This is going to happen in the future and i believe it to be the 5th dimension. Leading up to the transition into the 5th dimension the 3rd/4th will be transisted. This is already happening in my life on multiple levels and people that I communicate with in regards to dreaming. People I know are already experiencing pain and physical trauma carried over into the 3rd dimension including myself after dreaming. If dreams are just dreams, how is this happening. How is this not connected. How is it possible to be having precognitive dreams that happen if there is no connection. It is all connected. Everything is connected. Just because there is no known documented cases of things like that happening doesn't mean it doesn't. We live a society of knowledge control. That's what keeps the matrix functioning. If we had this knowledge or knowledge of aliens and our greater surrounding universe, this system would fail to exist. Why do you think we are told nothing of this when we know factually it exists all around us? We are a dumbed down and manipulated mass. There are of course dark forces at work preventing us from realizing the truth as I have experienced this throughout my life. But yes I know from first hand experience through meditation, prayer, fasting and supplicating to the God of all that is that ANYTHING is possible, including matter manipulation.

      I am also aware that many of these UFO's we see everywhere are not technology. They are beings using their own consciousness to travel and teleport. According to many beliefs humans are higher than the angels. If this is so, we are the most capable beings in the universe. This I do believe from my experience with telepathy, empathy and simple closeness to God and being in touch with my true essence for lengthy periods, this is what I have uncovered. If you don't wanna consider that, that's totally fine, its your reality, you create it as you go along and you can create whatever you like. I am not here trying to convince you or anyone of this. I believe it is because of all these things that I know what is capable in the dream world. I am here in this life because I want to experience it all, and to become fully awake, aware and realized and that is happening faster and faster every day. I can't imagine where my life will be 5 years from now let alone one year at the rate things are changing within myself, but this is just me. Everyone has their own journey and their own path. You can believe what you want. A lot of what I say I cannot prove, but I believe it will become a reality in the near future with alien contact and such, and me myself being an abductee, I have had many dreams and experiences physically that I have documented that shows power greater than we can explain. All we have to do is look to the skies for this. It has been around us all along, but again we are told nothing of it. There is so much that is to be experienced, I can't really even fathom the depths of how incredible life is going to become, but it is going to be super amazing and I am looking forwards to it with eager anticipation. We live in the essence of the infinite. If we are infinite than anything is possible, that is, if you believe if God. If you don't believe in God, well then we shouldn't probably even be having this discussion.

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      I do believe in God. I think I have a very, very adept understanding of how this world works. But still, I don't know what "Dimensions" you are talking about.

      What dimensions? What is the 1st? or 2nd? Etc.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Nerq View Post
      I do believe in God. I think I have a very, very adept understanding of how this world works. But still, I don't know what "Dimensions" you are talking about.

      What dimensions? What is the 1st? or 2nd? Etc.
      It's hard to explain using dimensions, but it's the simplest , quickest way that I really know how.

      To me 3rd dimension is the physical, the supposed "laws" of physics

      The 4th dimension is the conscious awareness to exist outside and within these laws

      The 5th dimension is transition of all physical elements both of the 3rd and 4th and a greater reality than we can comprehend at this point, but it is mostly hyper consciousness and physical matter doesn't really exist or have any dimension there. It is more condensed mind matter, an energy, consciousness, chi, universal consciousness, ie Christ consciousness of the universe.

      I have really only experienced this awareness in a vision and through meditation, but in meditation it was only a feeling. Although when I had my kundalini awakening experience (I think that's what it was) a white light type wormhole opened in my heart chakra that was pulsing and I felt a gateway to the 5th. So I really guess that is the best way to describe the 5th, it is a hypersensitive feeling dimension but also consists of all other dimensions. It's hard to verbalize in words, but it's like the summation of all other dimensions in this universe of light.

      My understanding of dreams is that they are alternate realities and dimensions, aspects of the infinite. I have known people to time travel in dreaming and live full lives in lucid dreams spanning the course of 50 years experienced in one night. DREAMS are everything. I don't know why some people fail to understand this.

      I honestly believe from my understanding a research, we do actually live in a matrix. The movie the matrix and inception are entirely accurate and have always been my favorite movies intuitively and now obviously I know why. As I explained before this reality exists as a result of knowledge control, secrecy, dna manipulation, the financial system and all kinds of mechanisms. You just have to investigate conspiracy theories to understand it and secret societies and understand the concepts of Angels and Demons and the forces at work in this universe we live in. I believe we came here to awaken. Even though this life is rigid and tough, it can be an amazing adventure to rediscover the infinite in. And that's what is happening right now on earth. Whether you want to perceive that as just a general awakening part of conscious evolution or part of a conspiracy it's up to you, but I believe in a balance of the two . Although once you understand the laws of attraction and how they work in "waking reality" as well as how they work in the dream world, you gain more control and power and the limits and laws of what you once believed to be true, begin to shatter, just like in the matrix. If there's anything that lucid dreaming showed me , it is that. Like I said my first lucid dream, when I got out of it, to me there was absolutely no difference from the dream to what I awoke to. For a few days after I felt as if I was dreaming. It was my first experience and most powerful. I knew then if I could experience this on a regular basis , I could transform this reality, but when you awake to this reality, it sucks you back in. You go back to sleep. This has to do with the saturn / moon matrix. The reality we live in I believe is a construct of celestial beings that are planets. They are also the primary God's that have been worshiped throughout the ages and even are still worshiped today and intertwined with religion.

      Theres lots of information about this and it is clearly apparent with the proper research what constitutes our reality, how it was formed, what keeps it in place, etc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq3xRyBZ_5A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpSqADAur-w

      We are actually all God's. Everyone has the capacity to create as God does. That's the biggest deception. We are lied to about this. Our true innate abilities are repressed. It's quite an atrocious lie and system, but once you see through it, its apparent. We are mislead by many God's claiming to be God. Planets, aliens, ascended masters. The true essence of Christ is gnostic Christ. Gnosis meaning KNOWING , oneself and ones abilities and the truth. This is the message Christ tries to bring forth but was denied. It was heavily covered up and twisted in religion and replaced with the God Yahweh of the old testament. A god of mass death demanding sacrifice. It heavily influences many believers today and many worship this God entity, but it is an imposter. The true God doesnt demand worship. The true God is all that is and exists within and without everything as Love and an unfolding infinite experience. That is what this life is about and how we are to experience it. Not under manipulation and mind control and deception by demons and other imposing God's and beings, again that is the greatest deception. I could go on and on but I encourage independent research into all of this. The information is out there. If you choose not to believe it , that is fine too. It's how I see it though, and I believe it to be highly accurate. Perception truly is reality.



      The first and second dimensions I don't have a lot of understanding for, but by logic and reason, they have to exist. I've had dreams of realities I can't explain. I also think that is where a lot of dark energy originates from

      When I speak about multidimensional beingness, this is what I mean. We all exist throughout these dimensions already. This is where our intutition comes from obviously and high self, we are just beginning to reawaken to it all , which should be amazing. We all exist of this light of the universe of the creator of the universe. I can't really speak on other universes though. From my understanding there are universes and realities far beyond our comprehensions, that do not exist on light, but I haven't experienced anything to validate this. This all ties into fractal universes and the multiverse which is kind of too much for me to get into right now. I also do not know about the dimensions above the 5th but believe they exist and we will eventually evolve into those dimensions as well.

      I know a lot of this may seem like psychobabble to some, but when you really dig into you really begin to expand the shit out of your consciousness.

      Ultimately that is all I wanna do, keep learning, expanding and growing and understanding my capabilities and pushing the limits. Although the more you learn the more you realize you don't know anything. Still fun though
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      We may guess that in dreams life, matter, and vitality, as the earth knows such things, are not necessarily constant; and that time and space do not exist as our waking selves comprehend them. Sometimes I believe that this less material life is our truer life, and that our vain presence on the terraqueous globe is itself the secondary or merely virtual phenomenon." H.P. Lovecraft

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      Its A sophisticated system. Apparently one of if not the most advanced in the universe. Millions of years of development behind it. An awesome growing and learning experience, however very trying. Immense suffering, but with that comes immense wisdom. A lot of old souls here at this time to assist in the ascension. Gonna get crazy awesome and fast as time , technology and consciousness accelerates.

      I had a precognitive dream a while back of ufo alien contact, then the next day it happened. I have it recorded. It was also picked up by media. I did a three part video interview. If your interested, id be willing to share it .
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      Ok. The link will be posted below.

      I have to warn you though, and others, that after watching this video you may start to dream about UFO encounters or alien encounters on a regular basis. I would say about 60 percent of people who have seen the video have started to dream about them and have their own independent experiences.

      My friends who were with me when this all started during the summer of last year, many also starting dreaming independently of abductions. One of them dreamed he was taken and he woke up while being operated on a table and they were shocked that he was waking up and they said "dont' worry we will make him think what we want him to think" the next morning he awoke and had pains in his abdomen where they were touching him in the dream.

      He then started seeing them everywhere that summer as I did, as well as another friend starting dreaming them and seeing them. Many witnessed these such as our girlfriends and friends to about 10 people in total that year.

      As I showed the video to others over the course of the year, it turned out that many also had dreams. One had a SP encounter directly after seeing it, one had a pink alien visitation experience a few nights directly after and so on and so forth. Also many new people that I have met during the year have seen the video just randomly. There are obviously connections here, but not sure what they are yet. I honestly don't really know what these things are yet, but I have me theories. Anyways the link below is to the news arrticle which contains the raw footage of my first encounter after the precog dream the night before. My youtube channel contains more footage from throughout the summer. There are also other media articles following my experiences, but this is the main one. Enjoy

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