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      Hi frying man I see in one of your replyís to a post you said that TYoDaS have re released the book and re- edited some of it I was wondering how much re editing have they done, trying to decide if itís worth re-reading I never really liked the book as I thought some of the practices were vague and couldnít see how they worked but I liked the clarification the editing has brought in that one piece you quoted .

      Your comment about a forum user called lenscaper has given me some extra fuel for LD practice too, you said how he would practice something for years at a time and as a result is lucid frequently.

      I keep missing a reoccurring dream signs and sometimes wonder if Iíll recognise it or if Iím doing something wrong and other times I think may be itís a patience thing when enough time has passed and daily habits of RCing after seeing said dreams signs have made there neural pathways in my brain then may be it will click into place.
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      Your posts have been ones of the most inspirational for my journey. I would really appreciate if you could give your take on my MILD version I published in the Attaining Lucidity section.
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      Hi dude I didnīt know about the book " The Ultimate Lucid Dreamer’s Manual: From Basics to Beyond".
      It seems quite interesting to read and is free !
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      Too cool! Cleared out some space for you...
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      Oh, so I can't pm you then?
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      Hi frying man, I was wondering, could I ask you a question?
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      Hiya, FryingMan! Just wanted to say that you're such an inspiration! I always look forward to reading your posts.
    9. It's all about the dreams, the awareness, not the counts . I had an amazing, long, maybe-sometimes-semi-lucid weird nap dream today. LDs are great, but recalling all those dreams every night is the best.
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      I can't believe you're beating me
      I've had a horrible dryspell ever since the last comp ended! T^T
      Would you mind like taking a break for like a year so I can catch up?? (jk)
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    Before my LD practice, I had a typical experience with dreaming: most nights I remembered nothing. If a dream was not particularly emotional I usually didn't remember it. Once in a rare while I'd experience a very vivid dream and remember it clearly (very few). I have treasured memories of flying dreams from childhood, and some childhood nightmares about a bogeyman who chased me and when he caught me all the monsters came flying out all around. I could go weeks or months without any significant dream memories in the morning. (I shudder now to think of those dreamless times!).

    I got into LD practice via my son, who regaled me with tales of his WILD adventures. I never paid too much attention to them, being somewhat dismissive initially, but one night in summer, 2013, sleeping out in the country I had a strange experience: I felt that I woke in the night, sat up in bed in the room I was sleeping in, and heard footsteps crunching on the leaves that sounded like someone was immediately outside my (widely opened) window. I salt bolt upright in bed, and looking out the window think I saw (or perhaps sensed) a shadowy, strong and perhaps malevolent presence outside the window. I felt entirely and completely awake. I returned to sleep, and the next morning I couldn't decide if I had been awake or not during that experience, and I was suddenly very interested in lucid dreaming. As is my wont, I immediately started searching for resources to learn more. I soon learned about ETWOLD, started reading it, and was instantly hooked.

    The rest is history. The very first night that I set intention to remember my dreams, to wake during the night to recall dreams, I recalled about 4-5 dreams during the night and recorded them in my DJ! I was so excited! Dream recall seemed natural and magical. I was on vacation, in a quiet, dark place, far away from the noisy city, sleeping alone in my own room.

    In the days and weeks that followed, I practiced everything that LaBerge recommended: critical reflection/intention moments during the day, RCs, prospective memory exercises, setting intention at night to recall and to journal dreams.

    When I felt that I had built up a decent base of recall, I started trying nighttime techniques like MILD, SSILD, and WILD. That's when the bubble burst a bit: I discovered the horrors of middle-of-the-night INSOMNIA. When I was just recalling dreams and heading right back to sleep I had no trouble returning to sleep and dreams. But these night-time visualization and awareness-boosting approaches left me wired wide awake, and many nights I missed the best REM dreaming periods to insomnia.

    I kept desiring to return to out place outside of the city on the weekends, and sometimes did, so I could recreate those quiet, dark, still conditions that I began LD practice with. And on one such weekend trip exactly one month to the day after I first set intention to recall dreams, I had my first lucid dream!

    It came, as many did afterwards, at the end of a long and particularly vivid, highly present dream at the end of the night. My first LD was an incredibly memorable experience, and I'm thankful that it lasted more than an instant, in fact it was around 45-seconds to a minute in length.

    My second LD came exactly one week after my first, also on weekend night.

    The lucid dreams were mind blowing -- but equally awesome were the nights full of vivid, weird, wacky, sexy, fun and funny non-lucid dreams. In my first flying dream, which was very vivid, I faced down and defeated my childhood dream block of overhead power lines: during the day I visualized meeting them at the start of a flying dream, and facing them head on, flying right at them and breaking through them effortlessly -- and this is exactly what happened in my dream! I was laughing in pure happiness that I had once and for all beaten my old flying-restricting nemesis. Only a few more times did I meet the power lines, each time flying right through them without problem. This was a major accomplishment.

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    2024-04-10 spring comp night #12 LLUCID #297

    by FryingMan on 04-11-2024 at 09:14 AM
    * [04:12 am] basketball, playing vs. <my uni> team, they're all black and super tall, I think how I'll play against them. Coming on to the court someone says "you realize the basket is higher [in college ball] than normal? I look at it and it seems higher, I decide to impress them with my layup abilities and try a reverse layup and miss quite badly. Later in a room with a (coach?) who's very fat and I get a strong whiff of body odor [first time in a dream]. There is a long line of store-processed turkeys leading off into the distance and there is something about this being a refrigerator room. On the court an older guy is lying on the ground, passed out and barfed, I say/think he over exerted
    * [???] a team of us is doing industrial espionage [?] I realize I've left some of my things with my name <my name> written on them, including my backpack, they may be able to find me out from this. We leave through a major door and I look back at it and it is multi-part including a swinging metal frame, and someone says something like "Suz Hash [grad] is pregnant".
    * <forgot>hanging out with a group of people.
    * [LD #297] It was after I had been riding around in the park in my childhood home's neighborhood TVP on an electric motorbike, I was trying to figure out how to flip on the engine, eventually I did, when I had flicked the right switch I saw a battery level indicator light up, then I started up the engine and revved the throttle and rode up to the street level , I get to the top and I see a car that is like my old car parked in front of me with the rear end facing me I see the license plate it is standard CA blue background and gold lettering and even "recognize" it (6SUB...?) . I know I need to get my motorbike into the back of this car but I'm not sure it will fit, I go up to the trunk and look in and there is a small person (child?) hunched there in the back storage area on the left, which is I can see far too small for my bike because the back seat of the car is right there practically against the window. And I get the strong impression this is my old (first) car. I go around the left side and I see there are some pretty girls in the back seat. As I walk around I notice some curly strands of black pit hair hanging out the sleeves. So I lean through the window, and kiss the girl seated there. I see her face and eyes briefly and kiss her again. I realize I'm dreaming and I decide not to get pulled in to "girl stuff" and want to go about some dream goals, so I decide to declare out loud "I'm dreaming!" and stand up and go somewhere else and do some things for the current dreamviews LD competition, and instead I find that I've half-sat up in bed and said "I'm dreaming" out loud! Oops. I felt sort of dreamy after that and only later realized I had not done a state test to see if it wasn't a false awakening/transition. It was instant and not a fade, so it may have been a FA!

    2024-03-20 spring comp night #1

    by FryingMan on 03-31-2024 at 03:26 PM

    all day lucid presence

    night time:

    voice memo22:
    + gathering room, salad at the counter
    Earliest dream in terms of sort of a room that's going to be a gathering party there's a provider of food and refreshments I go up to the calendar with a womum's aren't concerned that there won't be enough fresh vegetables the third will just be no industrial crap and there is the amount of the clerk across the counter and up against the wall to the clerk's right across from us I see a bit stacks of containers and bins of fresh grains And I say Hey look I'll go over there it's okay you know there's gonna be the possibility of fresh silence and there's like 2 or 3 layers levels tall and they're like rooted some of them but there's a lot of different different from fresh greens like a standing out like even sprouts and silence and things and then sort of the next the major thing you say here is that the room is full of naked men and women having sex and II think that this is actually a video playing but it's happening you one right in front of us and I feel that my wife is next to me and I'm very embarrassed by this scene and I want adjustments to turn off and go away

    + work group ice cream?
    Number 2 later probably maybe a fragment with a group of company D contractor friends maybe like the serious brothers are standing around and I think we want to go get lunch or go get ice cream or something I think we'd be a Rus. P. is there and we want too yeah even his name like we were gonna name our groups of flubs or somethand yeah we're like I think we don't really want to name our group Next is or evaluating some computer code in a class there is Ata or an instructor who is reviewing their supreme outs in front of us I don't know if I'm a participant or I'm is sort of helping grade or helping my friends I guess maybe mark wrapped and we're looking at the pronouncement we're reading the statements library's line and the gist with this is that my friend has written code that's not going to work and it's crashed in the whole system and I'm kind of trying to really understand what's going on and there are little phrases and things that catch like VD or VD or anything of thing click this number imagining what these is stand for for Later dreams like along the dachshund along the puzzle ordering you know that we're the between theories yes

    + baby wild pig at the country home
    it's dark it's twilight mostly dark outside and then I see what do you think is a Cuban chick and I call it Cuban chick and I'm trying to see if it's like a dog or a pig and I think I see it little flat snout and the walking along the path towards home dot your front yard it's like the old Doctor nothin Newman and I'm concerned about this thing following me and it does follow me I'm really still trying to look at it and see what kind of A face or whatever it has is it a couple of years is it gonna get into our Yand coming around to the front side I'm looking at our fence and thinking about the fences different kinds of fences there's new metal holes and then there's just a kind of nylon netting and I'm trying to see if an in this cabin took a still walking around and I wonder if our dog is gonna come app and start barking at it cause they have to go crazy if they see the couple and then they're gonna around like to the front and I'll call my wife Hey come over to the Caban check And I'm looking at it and I'm wondering is it gonna get in and looks like it has looks like it is squeezed and too between the fences and gotten to the original my wife comes out and she's not impressed and she's okay now and you're gonna have to get it out and you know build app the fence and let me know the next couple of more thoughts or meals imagining stringing you know fencing around the whole perimeter of the property and there's something with another scene where it's also sort of the same area dark and when I'm riding a bike with big wheels a large diameter mountain bike and it's going slowly but I'm maintaining my balance and it's going up over some like a Bumpy log hill with her these logs and But it's rolling pretty smoothly and I make it in front of the house I sparked the bike there and I'm concerned about leaving it there because I might get stolen

    + [f] crushed fiesta roof There's a There's a fragment about the crushed open roof Ford fiesta it's and apparently my old Ford fiesta and it's missing a roof and the and it's passe you're Kevin's a frame it's sort of like a the whole frame is crushed like it's been really severely ruined rolled over and totaled and it's like how to mechanics or something and the guy I'm running around what can we do about this and guy gets in somehow a car and from inside he pushes just with his hands and muscles the frame out undoing basically all of the dents and I'm watching this and I'm amazed that I'm looking at just all the different components and things that are visible I'm wondering how can you do this

    + swimming pool
    Inside a swimming pool a Stark there's a lot of people around and a lot of kids jumping and splashing and then swimming around and I'm bumping up against everyone it's very crowded [MEO] next result for a little there's a scene kind of outside of that where there are some people like a family of no standards Middle Eastern family or I'm older and there's like a man serious man Liking you with a terrorist face and the conversation is life caught some guy and they're saying well yeah if you had touched my sister in some way you like like a kisser or something like that held her hand that would be one thing but you comparatively grabbed her boob and the her kid in the pool this has become a huge problem and they're gonna be like this guy's the attacker is a mother is there and there's like oh yeah we're not gonna we'll be here we're not gonna flee the country and then there's something about a guy for the run saying how I knew yelled the people of his ethnicity they run all the restaurants along the street and yeah we say that we basically control the whole place

    + business meeting
    There's a business meeting dream I'm talking with call like apparently we're in a corridoutside of a meeting room there's a meeting room on one side and then there's an office on the other side and the conversation goes you know what I'm saying what is the CGI no court what is this company there like a problem for us and our business dealings I say I could understand someone like shell or Chevron big oil company I'm gonna understand that I'm not causing a problem but what is the CK what what are they and And I'm in the meeting room looking for a long narrow meeting room filled with the meeting table and people are sitting down on the table I moved to the kind of the far corner of the room away from the entrance door and everyone else has taken their seats all around this table like 14:15 16 people and they all put their bags up on the table and I think like their lunches are in these bags as well and I'm trying to find a spot on that the far corner have a lot of the round overall table because like a Woman on my right and a man on my left and I'm Running to Find the chair and I think how man am I going to have to stand up for the meeting that'll be embarrassing

    voice memo continuation:

    I find the couple chairs and I squeezed in the spot at the corner of the table and they're passing around handouts for the a meeting on the table right in front of me are the kind of the note taking tools of the people sitting around me I'm gonna wear several pads of legal you Know small size legal paper and pencils and pencils and things there are 2 handouts going around that are getting passed around there there are no Staples presentations and I get your presentation that I take a pen and I'm recording the topic and the date I think it's like CGI or CGA C and I write these letters and I write the date I don't like you on the month/the day don't remember maybe it's March something I write down In the sort of

    final scene of dream is when I'm entering a room it's sort of like a business interview or a business dealing where I'm kind of like a contractor and the guys I'm dealing with are like a snack contract managers of a how's uh uh how's the place where you know companies come to them and they supply the contractors and the Russians I'm coming in and the guy says you're coming come in and extend up against the wall how tall are you and I answer 63 and says well we're gonna say you're 6 too and I say why is that is are the clients scared of tall people and the guy kind of laughs or smiles and his Big Beaver buck Keith and Betty doesn't really answer the question I'm a little annoyed by this and then the question of salary comes up in Israel we can probably get you 98 I think that's low That's very low for me you know I was thinking my head over there and over 200 before and then I say oh well it's the idea that we're going to severely underbid the job and then I'm going to quit you know if to get the client to accept it and then I'm gonna quit because I'm gonna be so dissatisfied with the low salary I said I'd like my lucky gwhile in Virginia in the foreign language and he gives her the smiles and nods but doesn't answer and now he's got a call accessing next to Hermosa as big buck Front teeth like beaver teeth and they're smiling and kind of looking very sly like the other trying to like they know things and they're not telling me and I'm getting annoyed by this Possibly back at the scene where importance of bicycle after going over the logs I'm looking at in the distance at a house I don't know a woman inside the house I'm not sure

    2024-03-21 spring comp night #2

    by FryingMan on 03-31-2024 at 03:14 PM
    day work:

    17 minutes meditation

    all-day lucid presence



    auto transcribed voice notes, pretty much trash but helps me count the # of dreams


    + in-dream WILD attempt, white rope, knots, hanging, swinging through park can't fall asleep because of obstacles

    Main earthy for stream I lay down on my back I fell asleep on my back Harri was contemplating in her piece I'm gonna fall asleep resume and play quickly and who I Dream where I met wife E kind of a recurring Dream sign and I should do some mild about we kind of got back to Catherine there was something about A Sing on a very hilly town like San Francisco what's just normal houses like cars my health's kind of at the top of the hill maybe doing something in the living room there don't really remember that I'm outside and this is kind of the main part I going to be trying to do a wild and involves There there is is a white climbing rope hanging outside of a house and it has large knots about every foot so it should be easy tdecline and the wild procedure seems to require climbing this rope and hanging from it upside down until you fall asleep I'm imagining that I'm kind of lying there on I feel sort of obviously my waking body because I like I'm lying on the ground and my head is kind of squished up in a sort of uncomfortable position Against my chest and I guess I'm thinking that if I fall asleep I may fall down off this rope into this position and that's bad I might break my neck or hurt my head if I fall into the same position onto the ground then I'm thinking how can I hook my leg around this rope so that I won't fall anything that looks like the guy who is watching this whole thing might be interested in me falling asleep and falling off and getting hurt so I kind of get up on the throat but I pulled away very far to the side And then I'm in a very wide open area like a very extensive park and I'm swinging now on this rope I let I pull it way to the side to get a big kind of swing going and I let go from so I start to swing and it's almost not really swinging it's like I'm practically flying moving horizontally quickly through this park and the idea is I have to while I'm moving on this road like this I'm swinging I need to fall asleep but the problem is that there are so many obstacles around like trees coming up ahead and laughed a kind of guide by a software around them that way and I can't really I'm not really free to fall asleep Because I'm bashing to these trees and then I reach one side of the of the swing and I kind of turned around and go back to the other direction lends the same sort of thing there are lots of people around and trees and I'm concerned about bashing into something so I can't relax enough to fall asleep to wild then

    + stairway, doorway, snap crack bullet sound, wife E argument, sad, shoes, leave

    I have like a false awakening I awake and a home that's night time and I guess I need to pee I'm I have a pass by in the front of me I don't want to go to the typical 1 there are some stairs it's interesting that I don't normally climb stairs and dreams but I paid attention to stairs yesterday and the way I can climb from awareness training And climb of like 2 or 3 very steep short dark steps and there's a door at the top and I have to get through this door but there's no handle it's only key based deadbolts on my side 2 of them and again I'm thinking well I could go the normal way or I could just go through here I guess there's like a living room on the other side I don't really know and I touch the lower lock with my finger and there's a very sharp crack sound like the door like there was an alarm or the door was shot with a bullet from the other side and that wakes app wife E and she comes and she's Uber she's very upset it's going to wake up all the people in the house and then we start arguing and she becomes very aggressive and I practically am I'm flying off the handle Like that she is still and we had like sort of a getting back together mindset earlier in the dream and now like when we saw her outside on the street and I was so happy and her after us to see cigarette smiling and she is accusing me of a go when we first met you had this grimace on your face like when you saw me I saw your reaction and just claim make me think that claims that are not true and I said no you know I remember when I met you I was a rapturous I was smiling and I have this feeling that We're headed you know not forgetting back together but we're breaking up again and it's sort of a very sad this young feeling the butt Peter my stomathe work and and it's just starting to talk about how yeah it's like we're not going to get back together I mean it says that's the gist of the conversation and it's undercurrent of my sadness and disappointment is a sense of relief as well that's why I have to leave now I need to get my shoes and I get the points or the Butler or something in the house has shines my shoes and I think well that's strange joy if I had disappointment white new balances but they are leathers oh I guess they could be shines but I don't know how that's going to work and someone's helping me find them looking at a Closer and they pick out not shoes but like a Big stock of like pizza in tortillas I just have to wear these Issues Alright And And then I wake up I'm on my back and I sort of realize oh this is so I fell asleep in the split of the last way I had that sensation and the dream that I still remembered a little bit later oh yeah I tried to wild that was kind of fun and I messed that up but Sissy couldn't he's in the act of going to the dream in the dream I have a feeling that I could do well then cause I was closer I liked it fall asleep again a little bit later I don't think I don't know anyway but I'm extremely slow vague and I'm with my condre and I'm talking asking and I'll you what's the

    + church I stump out I remember I'm in a church service with a lot of people and I stomp out I guess I've lost my faith and I stomped out of the church and I have a couple of old buttons in my hand from my guess the outfit that I'm wearing and I throw them aside but we're gonna go with this day and then discuss to get rid of these thanks maybe and then there's another system with 2 altered boys areralph Raymond and the carrying the snow prayer fantasy but the relief their giant access there's sharpens to their interpreted designs that are silver metal and they're large you know they're like the basketball slice oh yeah bowling And like I say all other things sharpened things music yeah and then there's a scene where I son S1 goes outside toward dog L I guess we're a dog I can see the scene from inside that I can see it down on the street below he walks from right to left and he hooked up a rope in a series of plastic faces to the dog who is dragging them behind them menu's gathering water or it's slowing him down or something I don't know and Yes there's cause it's kind of a final scene I remember is that there's a place in a building where you go up against the window and there's it's an aquarium and it's at an inside level and that's really cool I think I don't know maybe it's like the living room of 3HC

    + bowling

    memo 23:
    + aquarium

    I don't know anyway I gotta cut off anywhere there's a sufficiand third in order of that there is the fish the aquarium load of Volkswagen sharks are really large weird fish I brought people back a second time to look at them and then there is the bowling alley I was describing the bowling alley how the guy turned off the lane how the ball wasn't the rest of the room and the ball returned for the ball to come back I'm like a blue looking for ball a that's a good fit by fingers and thumb size and weight and they pull it out and they bowl ball and it kind of wonders around on the lane a little bit and it hits the left gutter and goes down the left gutter and I wash your grit on the left gutter and I'm thinking it's suspended up over the regular as opposed to sitting down inside it and think of the stresses on the sides of the gutter and so forth

    2023-08-18 weak fragments (Obstacle course?) but GREAT SLEEP

    by FryingMan on 08-18-2023 at 12:42 PM

    Colors: Lucid, Semi-lucid, Non-lucid
    [comment from waking] in angle brackets
    (comment / clarification from dreaming) in parentheses
    Abbreviations: DS = dream sign, CH = childhood home, S1/S2 = sons, S/O = someone, S/A = something about, [f] = fragment, b/r = bathroom trip, Wn = waking #n, BT = bedtime, OOB = final out of bed time in morning, DO = Disembodied Observer

    Summary of the Night
    • BT: ~00:00 , OOB: ~07:30, fitbit score: 82 (6:41 asleep, 1:01 awake, 1:18 deep, 1:22 REM, 90%); supps: GABA, Glycine, Tryptophan, Mag-T, L-Thea, Apegn
    • Very active during the day. 3 long walks, 2nd one VERY long. Lots of time in the sunlight. Lots of movement.
    • Wakings:
      1. 02:21 b/r, no recall
      2. 07:27, recall (weak) <<< --- FIVE HOURS CONTINUOUS SLEEP!!! YYYYEEEESSSS!!!!

    W2: Obstacle course [f]
    Climbing over a tall wall. Bananas? Big group of people. Plot-focused activities. Vague, forgotten


    2023-08-17 no recall!

    by FryingMan on 08-17-2023 at 08:48 AM
    Nothing to say. Hot night, hard to sleep, lighting storm and thunder woke me up and scared the dogs, basically didn't get back to sleep. Just one tiny weak fragment. Feeling of a longer dream.

    + [f] something about people in a bunker?