Thread: Attaing LucidityWith This For The First Time?

Hey Reaper do Dreamviews!

You asked me about how safe Galantamine is. It is safe and not addictive. Pehaps you can read about it in Yuschak's book http://www.cortexel.us/awesome/upper...upplements.pdf

He did a whole research on GM, choline and other supplements. Yes, supplements. Not really inducers of LD, only something that may help. But first you should know how to WILD. Otherwise I don't really see you having a chance of getting a WILD.

A fast car is not what makes someone a winner in a car race. It's the drivers skills. Fast car helps, sure, but not without knowing how to drive a car.

I would recommend to start learning the DILD. And practicing for it. Nothing wrong with reading a WILD and DEILD tutorials at the same time, just in case you will find yourself experiencing some transition sensations. But WILD without knowing what to do is hard to pull off.

Induction Methods and Techniques
WILD

Good luck and let us know if you need help with anything.

Originally Posted by ReaperOfSouls

If I use Galantamine 8mg capsuules and choline bitartrate 500mg how many should i take the first night so that i have a pretty good chance of becoming lucid? And is the use of supplements worth it? Thanks guys!

Use only one 8 mg galantamine capsule, and one 500 mg choline bitartrate. That should be plenty!

And don't use them again for several days; the last thing you want is for your body to build up tolerance towards galantamine, because then lucidity would become even more difficult than at the outset.

Generally speaking, supplements are well worth it - if you have a deficiency. Supplementing with something you don't need is at best costly and useless, and at worst costly and dangerous.

8 mg galantamine and 500 mg choline bitartrate every five days or so should be unproblematic, and probably helpful. But, as gab pointed out, familiarising yourself with tutorials on the various techniques is the place to start - the supplements really are only supplemental.

I second what Gab says about doing some work on natural attainment before trying G+Ch. My natural ability is sketchy at best, and what I have found with G+Ch is that it's good at keeping me awake as it kicks in, then when I do get to sleep I have vivid dreams, but it's still difficult to get lucid. Usually I just wake up as soon as I get lucid, the same as What trends to happen in my natural LDs. I have recently had one long LD with it, but that was exceptional (both meanings!).
Maybe try 4mg to start, and leave it a week between attempts. Also, get to bed early when you try it for the first time and wake after 4 hours before taking it.
Definitely read Yuschak.

I wouldn't use supplements. All I used was strong intent, patience, and simple methods. I got my first LD after 2.5 weeks. Now I'm having them more frequently.