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      WILD Attempt - Something NEW happened. Advice pleeeeeze

      Hi all (again) so in my quest to master the technique of WILDing I had something new happen last night and I am more confused than Scooby Doo as to what exactly went down.

      I have had 10 successful WILD attempts since April and they all follow the same pattern below ...

      I wbtb after 6 hours, i perform a mantra / meditation then i start to lose consciousness for brief seconds or minutes at a time before returning to my meditation / mantra. Along the dive i have short dreamlets appear, this all goes on for some time until i feel some really strong intense vibrations in my head. these last for 3 short 'waves' and then everything goes silent. I now know at this point that i can simply get out of bed and be in a false awakening, so i stand, nose plug and then fly off to dragon mountain for battle :-) ... and thats basically how all my WILDS work.

      So last night something different happened. I went through all the same steps but for my anchor i tried the classic 100 countdown with a mantra timed to the breath. At about 70 i started to drift in and out of awareness with dreamlets here and there so I knew i was on the right track, i also remembering counting past 40 and then the next thing I will try to explain the best I can but as you know, relaying experiences ion words is quite tricky.

      Im laying there and then all of a sudden i feel a very quick and subtle shift happen within me and within 1 second everything went quiet. Before i had ringing in my ears which i get often at night and i could hear my breathig but within 1 second it all kind went ssshhhhuummppppp!!!! .... silence!

      I was full y aware and noticed i could still hear the clock ticking in the room but was unsure of where my state of consciousness was. As I lay there i pondered that i could be in a false awakening so i tried to levitate and twist my dream body but nothing happened. I lay there without doing any mantras or anything because i felt quite awake but I thought that was also odd because after only 6 hours sleep and all that anchoring i should have been asleep or very tired. so I just lay there, no HI or anything, i just did nothing, it was frustrating because i pondered that i could at that moment be in a FA but i just felt so awake. After a while i just thought to myself that I should check the clock so i opened my eyes and it had been 50 mins since the wbtb so i turned to my side and quickly fell asleep

      So now that mystery...

      After the countdown and the ssshhhuummpp to silence, was i awake or consciously asleep? If i was awake then why did I not feel sleepy seeing as minutes before i was free flowing in and out of consciousness. If I was actaully asleep and in a false awakening then what should i have done to transform it into a lucid dream (i did try visualizing a scene for a few seconds but nothing really happened.

      Any help would be very welcome so that NEXT time this happens i will have some more knowledge of what to do

      Many thanks guys (and girls)
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      The sound and sensation you experienced was that of waking up from a false awakening. You didn't feel sleepy because you woke up from REM rather than deep sleep.

      If you lose consciousness, try to do remember to do a reality check once you gain it back. Also watch out for anything unusual that could be a clue that you're dreaming while you're WILDing. A false awakening can occur without a perceptible loss of consciousness.

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      From personal experience, I would say that was a FA (False Awakening) that simply seemed all too real. What you just described is exactly what my WILDs are like. WBTB, perform consciousness exercise, SP sets in ("waves", ear ringing, heavy sensation, followed by silence), then I get up, and perform the good old nose plug, and voila, I'm dreaming! Often times, the false awakening gets the better of me, and I even check the clock and it all makes sense that I simply woke up, implying that I tried to step into my LD too soon into my FA. However, that usually isn't true. For me, there's always a cue that allows me to be sure it was in fact a FA, such as a blurry time reading on my phone, a different bed orientation, or just a mismatching lighting-time of the day. More often that not, it's just worth it to do the nose-plug check, if it works, you're lucid dreaming, if it doesn't, you really fell out of your SP and odds were already against you.
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      THanks for the input guys, Im unsure what happened but there was certainly a shift that happened. It was like my usual WILDS but without any HI or HH at all, My first thought was to nose plug but I thought there a chance that i could move my real body and wake up. As I lay there i also thought that if I was in a false awakening then I should be able to translocate / levitate / sink into bed or spin, but i couldnt do anything, it felt like i was awake

      Dolphin, im unsure that i woke up from a false awakening because the whole WILD process wasnt that long and i was full conscious right up until that sshhuumpp, as i had been reciting my 100 countdown with mantra when it happened so I hadnt fallen asleep

      Maybe next time this happene, i should just lay there and cycle through all the 'movement free' reality checks (seeing thorough eyelids, attempting to translocate, trying to rotate, levitation etc) and if nothing works then simply roll out of bed and hope for the best

      Can you guys add any other ideas to this please. I like to prepare for all situations so that when they happen i know what i should do. As we know, no 2 WILDS are exactly the same (or so im told) and so many different situations arise.

      AndresLD - Hey we seem to experience WILDS very similar! Have you ever had a WILD where you go into a dream scene rather that your bedroom. Im always unsure when and how i should create a scene, at which point during the dive. If all my time is directed at my anchor then when should I visualize (during the vibrations perhaps?)

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      I can't think of any other ideas to add. I think you're on the right track, Ezzo!

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      Sounds like you were just awake but you were in paralysis? I've had that a few times. That's what itching is all about, the body starts to go to sleep and the brain tests that by causing an itch. If you feel the itch and move to scratch it, that tells he brain that you are still awake. If you don't scratch, your brain then shuts the body down into sleep paralysis. But then you can wake while your brain leaves your body in sleep paralysis.

      I think that's how it works! Still haven't quite got my head round it but it sounds very similar to my experience.

      Really interesting about how everything goes silent and then you can enter the dream. I think that has happened a lot to me as well, but where its also dark. I think I have just gone to sleep each time. Must do more RC's!!!!!

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      I've had a few WILDs where I create a dreamscape rather than just standing up in my dream bed, but they're rare for me. That was back when I was getting into lucid dreaming and since that's how everyone describes WILD, that's what I used to try before. Essentially you're just imagining a scene during the SP vibrations, and once it's vivid enough you just sorta step into it. It's really hard to explain haha, sorry. But for me, standing up after a minute or two of SP is what works best, you just have to keep an eye out for FAs as they seem really common with this method!
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