Thread: Question about D.E.I.L.D's

How does one train themselves into remembering to stay still when they wake? Ofcourse when i wake i instantly here my alarm and roll over to see what the time is ect....is maybe using mantra the way? Thanx =)

I've been trying DEILD for a few weeks, and i've been using mantra, sometimes
i could wake up, but i couldn't back to sleep again. I wonder why.

Originally Posted by Iriba

I've been trying DEILD for a few weeks, and i've been using mantra, sometimes
i could wake up, but i couldn't back to sleep again. I wonder why.

I suppose it depends on how kuch you have slept.....usually if iv been asleep about 2 or 3 hours then id have a better chance rather than having too much sleep.
Iv only ever had 1 DEILD about a year ago but didnt know what it was.....i knew i shouldnt sleep because i was having a row with my gf but i was real tired and went streight into a lucid....when that lucid ended i woke up very still and felt myself go back into another lucid in the same setting.

Originally Posted by Clidu

I suppose it depends on how kuch you have slept.....usually if iv been asleep about 2 or 3 hours then id have a better chance rather than having too much sleep.
Iv only ever had 1 DEILD about a year ago but didnt know what it was.....i knew i shouldnt sleep because i was having a row with my gf but i was real tired and went streight into a lucid....when that lucid ended i woke up very still and felt myself go back into another lucid in the same setting.

Usually when i tried DEILD, i would sleep at midnight and wake up at 3am, but i always
had a reason to wake up, most of times i had a urge to go to the bathroom, or it was because my bed was too
hot and i was sweating.
In my opinion, DEILD is basically skipping those small things you need to do and fall back asleep immediately.
Because i already had some DEILDs where i could dream the same scenario again, and i skipped those little goals.

DEILD is my primary technique, and I've found that the primetime for REM is around 5-6 hours sleep. For example, if I went to bed at 10:00, I would likely wake up around 3:00 to 3:30.

That being said, I've had multiple DEILDs that occurred around the 7-8th hour. It mostly depends on the person. Like Iriba said, try using a mantra to help you focus; one thing I've tried is using a 5 second alarm that wakes me up just slightly so I can have a lucid.

Keep your mantra simple, like: "Stay still. Eyes closed. Enter the dream." and keep it in the back of your head as you go to sleep. Most of all, you're going to need a lot of intention to follow through with it. In my years of lucid dreaming, no technique is more powerful than having intention and motivation.

I have an elaborate setup for DEILDs. I have my apple iwatch vibrate for 5 seconds before it automatically stops on its own. It then vibrates each 15 mins. I start it about 4 hours into sleep. If im in deep sleep then it tends not to wake me. If im in rem then it wakes me and i am able to keep still. i then perform 'indirect techniques' until I can seperate out into an 'obe'

'The Phase' is the best book on the planet for DEILDs and combined with an alarm makes it a powerful technique indeed