Don't notice the transition between awakened and groggy state when doing lucid dream techniques

**luffy28** · 06-01-2018 08:26 PM

Hi,
I'm trying to do a technique called ssild and obe4u.com in combination with each other. When I awaken I don't notice the transition between the groggy state and the awakened state. In other words, I immediately awaken to the awakened state and it's like I skip the groggy state where I still am tired but still am a little bit awake.

Are/is there any advice anyone can give me for this?

Thanks.

**lucidbunnie** · 06-02-2018 01:04 AM

I posted something similar to this sometime before, but here it goes... there are fast and slow wave sleep stages, right? We usually dream during fast wave sleep i.e. the REM. If we wake up in slow wave sleep or deep sleep we tend to be groggy. So if you wake up during REM it's very unlikely you'll be groggy unless you really lack sleep. From the looks of it you are waking up during REM stage.

**Sivason** · 06-02-2018 02:28 AM

Try practicing not moving or even opening your eyes when you wake. If you can get to where it is natural for you to become aware before you engage your body you can then play with this transition stage. If instead you wake and move and look about you draw your full consciousness quickly and pass the transition stage too quickly to explore it.

**luffy28** · 06-02-2018 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by lucidbunnie

I posted something similar to this sometime before, but here it goes... there are fast and slow wave sleep stages, right? We usually dream during fast wave sleep i.e. the REM. If we wake up in slow wave sleep or deep sleep we tend to be groggy. So if you wake up during REM it's very unlikely you'll be groggy unless you really lack sleep. From the looks of it you are waking up during REM stage.

Can you post where you put it? The reason I'm asking is that I tried awakening this morning without moving (it seemed like it was quick again the transition). I was a little groggy and I tried doing a combination of ssild where for the vision part I visualized doing/picturing an anime character in my chair less than 6 feet ahead of me. For hearing I played a song in my head for 5 seconds. And for touching I sensed touching another person. Is this recommended? Or should I do just what obe4u says to do?

Thanks.