Problem with WILD Induction

**Phantom08** · 01-09-2019 04:14 AM

I have been lucid dreaming for a couple of years now and the majority of my dreams have been WILDs or supplement induced crazy WILDs. I seem to have trouble when doing it correctly and under control though, I lay in bed sometimes for a couple of hours waiting and it would eventually happen. The problem is I don't see any sleep hynagogia I just feel for it in my mental state which isn't that good of a gauge, and what I see is usually all darkness the entirety until I get in. Sometimes I fall asleep for ten minutes wake up then have insomnia and sleep paralysis which assists the process but this way is unreliable. I'm always able to enter the WILD once I concentrate enough and at the very last moment let it all go as if I was skydiving falling backwards through my bed and it tends to create these literal wild WILDs.

The question is I can't really rely on this method as there is no gauge when I have to let go, I just attempt the action of letting go many times and eventually there is a point of no return where the WILD happens, I then either start spiraling in my bed, get flung out of bed, feel like I'm being shot out of cannon, or falling. I don't see any images or hear sounds and I would like some advice on how to make this method work from any similar experiences as I really don't know how to induce the hypnagogia to ease myself into a lucid dream.

**dolphin** · 01-09-2019 10:13 PM

In the book Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming, there is a WILD technique called the No Body Technique. It doesn't involve concentrating on any imagery or sounds, but includes a gauge for when to let go that isn't insomnia or sleep paralysis.

THE NO BODY TECHNIQUE

1.Relax Completely
After awaking from a dream, lie on your back or right side with your eyes gently closed. Tighten and then relax your face and head, neck, back, arms, and legs. Completely let go of all muscular and mental tension, and breathe slowly and calmly. Enjoy the feeling of relaxation and affirm your intention to consciously enter the dream state; let go of all other thoughts, worries, and concerns. If you have just awakened from sleep, you are probably sufficiently relaxed. Otherwise, you may use either the progressive relaxation exercise (page 53) or the 61-point relaxation exercise (page 54). Let everything wind down, slower and slower, more and more relaxed, until your mind becomes as serene as the calmest sea.

2. Think that you will soon no longer feel your body.
While falling asleep, concentrate on the thought that when you fall asleep your body will become imperceptible.

3. Float freely about the dream as an ego-point
As soon as you can no longer feel your body, imagine that you are a point of awareness from which you perceive, feel, think, and act in the dream world. Freely float about the dream world like a mote upon a sunbeam.

Commentary
Some people will probably feel that life as a disembodied spark leaves something to be desired. If so, never fear, there are plenty of vacant dream bodies available for immediate occupancy.

**Sivason** · 01-12-2019 06:15 AM

Perhaps try eliminating all your thoughts except a simple anchor. For instance, you could repeat a few words in your mind and use them to over ride any random thoughts. This allows the body to actually fall asleep, while retaining only a tiny hint of awareness. Hypnogogic stuff should start fairly soon after you enter the first bit of true sleep.