New Method!

[tiddlywink101]

I found this method while searching the net, I haven't tried it yet and probably won't as it requires you to stay awake for 24 hours http://www.totse.com/en/fringe/dreams_aura...seas179084.html

[Lucid-Wannabe]

Interesting.. I've stayed up for more than a day before, but never thought of using my lack of sleep to induce a LD.

[gonnabeathinker]

When I first heard about lucid dreaming. The method was to stay up as long as you possible can then go to sleep, and you will have a lucid dream. So I tried it and it was just a big waste of time. Oh and totse is the worst website ever. I once learned how to make a smoke popper on that website, but it was totally bogus.

[Dice]

I'm not sure if it works. When you skip sleep for some time, you usually fall in the stages of deep sleep where no dreams occur for quite some time to make up for all the time you've been awake since your last sleep. If it would work somehow, I would definitely try it, since I've been up for 24 hours a few times before, and it's not that much of a big deal (if you know how to deal with it). However, even if this would work, you shouldn't do it too much, since staying awake for such a long time a lot is bad. The language used by the webmaster makes me doubt a lot too. What do you guys think about this?

[theyearthreethousand]

I haven't read the site, because I don't need to. I know it works... not specifically 24hrs.. but when I was busy with college work I used to stay awake for many many hours. out of choice, as well though (somehow I viewed it as a challenge). some of my most lucid and favourite dreams have happened using this method - it's great when it seems that hrs upon hrs have passed in a dream.. and you wake only to see that 15 mins have passed. I don't think it was just a co-incidence.

[flight]

Yeah, I can definitely see how that could work. Thanks another thing to help get lucid if in this situation.

[Dice]

Hmm, if you guys are so convinced of this, then I might try it out myself someday. However, I'm still not sure whether it works or not, why would this even work? I think you just sleep deeper, and you're not very likely to remember dreams.

[tiddlywink101]

Totse is fairly disreputable, I don't trust it myself. I just thought some of you would find it interesting

[theyearthreethousand]

Hmm, if you guys are so convinced of this, then I might try it out myself someday. However, I'm still not sure whether it works or not, why would this even work? I think you just sleep deeper, and you're not very likely to remember dreams. [/b] I'm not sure WHY; but it DOES work for me, at least. thing is though, I wouldn't recommend depriving yourself of sleep just to test out this theory.. because you may be disappointed.

[Dice]

I believe that it might work for you, for some odd reason... However, I'm not going to try it, unless I have something that looks like evidence telling me that it might work. This is interesting, because if it does work, it wouldn't be such a pain to try it out once. However, it sucks to be awake for 24 hours, experienced it at times myself.

[tiddlywink101]

Placebo effect perhaps

[FreeOne]

i would be more willing to try this if the site actully explained how it worked. If you used it with FILD then that might help, or MILD or WILD or somthing like that, but he just told us to turn on the tv. Why would that work?

[CrazyInSane]

This is actually a real method, I've heard of it before, though I haven't got to trying it yet. I think I will soon. It's actually called "SDILD", or Sleep deprivation-induced lucid dream. The theory regarding this method is that your lack of REM sleep for an extended period of time (19 to 24 hours, or more) will force your body to compensate for this by immediately inducing REM sleep when you finally "let yourself fall asleep". As long as you try a little bit to remain conscious for like 20 seconds, you will consciously enter a LD (this is very similar to the WILD method, and quite a bit easier if you don't mind staying awake 24 hrs). As for the part about blasting the TV volume, I haven't heard of that before but I can see the logic in it—helping you stay aware and conscious as your body tries to set you unconscious.

[FreeOne]

thanks for explaining how it works now that i know how it works, I might try this sometime. maybe combine it with FILD. the moving of your fingers is supposed to help you stay consious

[Swikity]

I think that might be able to work even if you don't stay up that long. As long as you enter your REM period. I found that listening to comedy works.

[2Fruits]

Hmm, I might try this when I go to the UK in a few weeks. It's a 25 hour plane flight, and I'll have another 12 hours before I do anything after that! Now that I think about it more, it's the PERFECT time!

[FishtankHank]

At first I thought this seemed a little silly and very unhealthy, but now that I consider it, it does makes sense. Stephen Laberge stated that if you went to sleep drunk you would suppress REM sleep until you were no longer drunk and then you would have a period of intense REM sleep to make up for the lost time. In fact, he talked in his book of inventing a pill to do this as a method of inducing lucid dreams. I suppose sleep deprivation works in the same way. You deprive yourself of REM sleep and when you finally go to sleep your body must play catch up. However effective this may be it doesn't sound like its good for you and I don't think I would recommend using this method regularly. Something about forcing your body to play catch up is a little scary to me.

[Alprazolam]

It's simple rather, not exactly new. By staying up for this amount of time (Most people) are loosing sleep. When you loose sleep you usually have some sort of REM rebound > More REM periods (Periods of sleep when you dream) which means a better chance to fall directly into one or have more chances to LD. Listening to the TV while extremely tired is just a way to keep your conscious mind attentive as you fall asleep, just like FILD (Being extremely tired and trying to keep your mind engaged on your fingers moving as you fall asleep) It seems like a decent technique, but the chance for this not working as often as one might think far outweighs what it requires IMO. If someone gives it a shot, get back to this thread.

[TalkingHead]

Why do they say 48 hours? Do they expect you to have 24 hours of LD's? Anway, I plan on trying to stay up for about 36 hours and meditate for possibly 20 hours in between. I don't know if I can pull it off, but I wan't to try it once for a number of reasons.

[blahaha]

I'll try this tonight. I'll have to stay awake for 12 more hours, so I'll come back here tomorrow.

[Psylocibin]

Watching TV while sleepdeprived is one of the most horrible experiences I could imagine. And that includes lying paralyzed while humanoid spiders cut me open and start eating my intestines.

[Abra]

I think this would actually hamper your ability to LD rather than increase it. Not only would you be dog-tired (meaning your dream recall and concentration/alertness would drop), but you would have just as much REM rebound as NREM rebound (which I'm assuming is the basis for staying up 24 hours). Not to mention the author of the website has no support... Now, if you could wake up every time you are about to slip into REM (as in a sleep study; you'd need someone by you to wake you up, or have such a consistent sleep schedule that you could use an alarm), and perhaps omit only that from your dream cycle...

[blahaha]

Just woke up. It worked at first, I started out in a black void. I did the nose plugging rc for awhile just because it feels cool. Soon after I was in my back yard, but I lost lucidity and the dream is pretty blurry from there. I don't think this tech is worth the effort. Edit: Forgot to mention, I just did a normal wild instead of listening to the tv.

[FreeOne]

Just woke up. It worked at first, I started out in a black void. I did the nose plugging rc for awhile just because it feels cool. Soon after I was in my back yard, but I lost lucidity and the dream is pretty blurry from there. but hey, it worked now we have 1 witness that the technique actully works

[blahaha]

but hey, it worked now we have 1 witness that the technique actully works A regular wild is a lot easier and this dream faded really fast, it was easier to fall asleep though. I guess it's a good method if you like minute long lds lol. I only tried it once though, so it's hard to say.