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      I think you're on the right track, but oversimplifying. We have many more than 5 senses, and most of them are just generalizations anyway. For example, we have a sense of balance and a sense of pain, but both are often assumed to be part of our sense of touch, though they've been otherwise for over 100 years.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sense

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      You don't need 500 different senses for and LD. How about heat and cold? Does anyone ever care whether they are affected by temperature in LDs? Though not.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Happiness is a Warm Gun View Post
      I think you're on the right track, but oversimplifying. We have many more than 5 senses, and most of them are just generalizations anyway. For example, we have a sense of balance and a sense of pain, but both are often assumed to be part of our sense of touch, though they've been otherwise for over 100 years.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sense
      VERY interesting.

      By touch, I meant to include those although now that they are brought to my specific attention, they are pretty large players of their own. I do not believe that balance and temperature are necessary to induce a V-WILD, however. I essentially touched on kinesthetic sense and kinesthetic sense should be decently automatic in a dream due to your innate knowledge of everything existing in the dream.

      I will start experimenting, however. I'm really curious how much more realism I could add by inducing these senses. I am even more curious what I can do by warping these senses as well and taking them past human barriers. Imagine extreme heat or extreme cold without pain =D

      Then, I noticed a list of non-human senses. These shall be interesting to play with indeed.

      In short, I'm going to do some tests and trials and i'll report back with any VILD-related info or modifications I stumble upon.

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      Hey, sweet tutorial, I've got some questions though on the transition to dream phase.

      For example, it just kinda jumps over the whole move to dream thing very quickly. So I'll be visualizing, but I can do that anywhere. You also say imagine yourself doing something, but I can also do that anywhere.

      And when I do imagine myself doing something in my head, I do it, then it's over. I'm still totally aware that I'm awake and if I try to move I actually move in bed, and ruin the whole thing.

      Hope you can help.
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      It's a matter of really immersing yourself in the dream. Create a character, create a plot, explore... Find interest in your dreamscape. There has to be something going on that interests you.

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      I still find visualization out of all of the senses the hardest.

      This may sound like nonsense but...

      I feel as if I keep trying to paint the image on my eye lids, however when I am doing it good I feel as if I am trying to "feel" the image, hard to discribe other then I try to recreate everything I feel when I am focusing on any given thing in my field of vision. The feeling isn't a normal emotion it not only defines the image but it mimics what it feels like to beable to see, what I feel like with my eyes open.



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      Quote Originally Posted by LucidDreamGod View Post
      I feel as if I keep trying to paint the image on my eye lids, however when I am doing it good I feel as if I am trying to "feel" the image, hard to discribe other then I try to recreate everything I feel when I am focusing on any given thing in my field of vision. The feeling isn't a normal emotion it not only defines the image but it mimics what it feels like to beable to see, what I feel like with my eyes open.
      I think that was very well worded =)

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      Thanks for the first answer, second question,

      When do you recommend doing this, and how much like a WILD is it?

      For instance, should I relax a while before visualizing, or just immediately start picturing my dreamscape.

      Second question, the WILD one. Should I be counting my breaths or the other methods of keeping aware? Should I be expecting SP while I'm visualizing? And should I be doing WBTB for this particular method?

      Thanks, I know it's a load to answer but I'm a nembie, it's what happens
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