Thread: WILD Problems

I have the same problem. Only if I try too hard, I can't get back to sleep easily.

I think you've got to just keep on truckin'. Wait even longer. You are completely aware, so it's no surprise that your mind is thinking "Ah. You're awake still? Better not start dreaming now." We may have to wait so long that our minds say "Awake or not, screw you. I need my REM," and flips on a dream. Once that happens, I bet our minds will then say "Oh!! That's what you wanted all along? I get it!" and it'll become a lot easier.

Ignore that. I just wish it were like that. No matter what, it takes loads of patience for those that aren't naturals.

I try to imagine scenes, too. It never works for me. I'm hoping if I don't think about anything for too long, my mind will create a dream for me.

I have the same exact problem. Stuck in SP and then don't know where to go from there. It's really annoying. However, after a month of this, today I FINALLY was able to start hallucinating. All of the sudden I felt like I fell through my bed, it was scary but I was SO AMAZED!! That when i reallized what I did, I woke up all the way. Ill try again tonight!!!

Well it's 3:30am, a little earlier than my alarm was set for. Not entirely sure why I got up at this time. Can't remember whatever dream I may have had unfortunately, but I'm just about to attempt WILD again with a few pointers from around the forum.

Tonight it's going to work!

Good Luck! I wish I could just have ONE LD!! Just to know that I can do it.

Well I'm awake again... I was very close and even started to see some flashing imagery. Nothing specific, just colours. I felt my body was numb enough for me to do a reality check but I actually did move my real arm. Then the paralysis faded. I rolled over but was awake. Gonna try again just now. Maybe I left it too long... or not long enough? It always seems to take exactly 40 minutes to get to this stage.

I'm beginning to think the realisation of being almost fully paralysed is causing me to wake up. I remain calm but still don't fully go under.

Yeah I know that feeling. Just keep trying. I am going to as well in a few. WE CAN DO THIS!!

Fell asleep on the second attempt last night. I'm beginning to think that my awakening is cause by my assumption that I've reached my goal when I enter SP, when clearly that's just the beginning.

Going to do some reading today on methods to create dreamscenes or maybe force a encourage awakening or something.

I have a similar problem, though I only had it once, afterwards I kinda took a break from WILDing because it wasn't a fun experience. I don't know what happened, but after like an hour of sitting in SP, with no HI or anything, I kind of gave up and just got more comfortable and attempted to fall asleep. It was the worst night of sleep I've ever had. It wasn't even sleep, I was rolling over constantly and flipping and tossing for like, 2-3 hours at least. I've never had trouble falling asleep, usually I do in under 20 minutes, and I'm always fine just laying on my back. I think I'll try WILDing again soon though...

That happens to me occasionally. I enter SP and nothing happens, then I eventually wake up but it takes me an hour to get back to sleep.

Last week Friday, I attempted a WILD. I was lying in bed with my sleepmask and earplugs on, waiting for SP to come, not moving a muscle. SP arrived in about 30min, and yet like you all, I saw nothing. I never have visual HI, EVER, so after about 5 more minutes I concluded that I wasn't going to be dreaming this WILD. Funny thing, though; I forgot that I was wearing a sleepmask! So, I opened my eyes expecting to see my room. Much to my surprise, I was sitting at my computer desk! It was VERY dark, but details were discernable easily. I knew I was dreaming at that point; opening my "eyes" seemed to create the dream imagery!

Unfortunately, a dream scene existing is NOT a sign that you can move yet! I tried to do so, and broke the dream scene and went right back into SP, and then woke up...

So, I think the trick is entering SP itself. It seems many of you have done so already! That's great! Now, I honestly believe that once you've hit that point, you ARE dreaming. I'm under the opinion that we dream in almost ALL stages of sleep, but that in REM it's just more vivid and easier to recall. So, that would mean that in SP, you're dreaming a very dull and boring dream, but dreaming nonetheless, but your subconscious doesn't recognize it as such. It still thinks you're awake!

I think by opening my eyes without realizing I had a sleepmask on, I tricked my subconscious into REALLY truly believe I was asleep, as I still saw blackness when I opened my eyes.

And that's the whole problem, I believe. EVEN when in SP, there's still that hint of "I'm still awake" to the subconscious, as Abra said. So, you have to REALLY believe you're asleep. I'm still trying to find out exactly HOW to do this still myself, but I'm convinced that this is the secret, and that entering SP is really the hard part.

I've only recently started using a sleepmask but before I wore one, I didn't dare open my eyes for fear of waking up

I've tried a few times with my mask on, sometimes the SP fades, other times it doesn't, but I still only see darkness. Making progress though.

how many hours do you guys sleep for before wbtb? im having the same problem.

I just now started back up with LD'ing and i go to sleep for about 3-4 hours during a WBTB session.

I have had the same problem too, I have never had HI, but I always feel strong vibrations. anyhoo during SP ive noticed that its best not to do anything for a while when it starts. I once moved my arm and thought it was my physical arm but upon awakening my arm was in the same position as it was when i fell asleep. so try making little movements like wigling your finger or moving your lips.