Thread: I H8 Reality's VILD Technique

Originally Posted by Shift

Yea, what???? The brief awakening serves two purposes: It is very brief, so that you can restrict movement and remain in SP, and it's an awakening, so that your brain can become conscious and awake enough to trick your body into remaining in SP so that you can WILD quickly. No matter what I think you're going to be going through SP, whether or not you feel the effects is another question. But if you are fully conscious throughout the entire process, from awakening to the dream itself, you are going to either be staying in or going through SP. It depends on how much you wake up/move.

Unless it's a false awakening of course!

You shouldn't feel SP with this technique

Originally Posted by westonci

You shouldn't feel SP with this technique

But regardless you will be in SP

I turned of my alarm clock and then did the technique...How did I turn of my alarm if I was in SP?

Originally Posted by Shift

But regardless you will be in SP

Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox

I turned of my alarm clock and then did the technique...How did I turn of my alarm if I was in SP?

ahh quotes first then message, I thought it was part of your sig at first haha "Man, of all the things that I've said, why that?" lol

Well you were out of SP to turn it off, then you went back into SP.
You aren't always conscious of going through SP. It happens every single time you go to sleep (unless you're http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ghlight=helmet ...? I'm skeptical), but how many times have you actually experienced it? I don't WILD but even WILDing, you don't always experience the onset of SP, and in techniques like this one it is theoretically because you are so in the midst of your visualization that you aren't paying enough attention to your physical body to perceive SP.

Do a search of this thread for arby's posts =

I was about to wake up from this dream once, and in that dream I was about to smash something. Then woke up, and WHAM - I hit my hand against the wall
I wasn't sleepwalking though.
EDIT: damn I forgot it again! Quotes first!!

Originally Posted by Shift

ahh quotes first then message, I thought it was part of your sig at first haha "Man, of all the things that I've said, why that?" lol

Well you were out of SP to turn it off, then you went back into SP.
You aren't always conscious of going through SP. It happens every single time you go to sleep (unless you're http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ghlight=helmet ...? I'm skeptical), but how many times have you actually experienced it? I don't WILD but even WILDing, you don't always experience the onset of SP, and in techniques like this one it is theoretically because you are so in the midst of your visualization that you aren't paying enough attention to your physical body to perceive SP.

Do a search of this thread for arby's posts =

Haha well there's no rule about quote order, it's just common practice on this site to do it that way, so it's a bit confusing at first to see it in that order.
Hmmm RC time lol

Short of hooking you up to all sorts of machines that I don't even understand I can't tell you exactly what happened. But it woke you up, didn't it? Often people wake up committing some sort of action that carried over from the dream. I can't say 100% confidently why. Sleepwalking doesn't occur during REM dreams. My guess would either be that it was such an intense action that you jerked yourself out of SP and enacted it (but woke up as you did so), or even that you just happened to wake up at that time and SP ended and you still acted out that one part of the dream. I guess like when you wake up from a nightmare and you bolt upright even before you're 100% sure you're even awake. I haven't read any literature about when exactly SP ends so I can't say for sure. But the fact that you don't have broken bones and bruises all over you yet you dream every night is testament to SP doing its job... for the most part

I'm not sure what's more interesting... that, or experiencing SP when you've just woken up and being paralyzed haha

Originally Posted by westonci

You shouldn't feel SP with this technique

Right, because the part of SP you feel is the onset of SP. That's when 'vibrations' happen. But you most certainly are in SP with this technique, which makes it DEILD.

Originally Posted by drewmandan

Right, because the part of SP you feel is the onset of SP. That's when 'vibrations' happen. But you most certainly are in SP with this technique, which makes it DEILD.

Your not suppose to feel SP with my technique. You basically you from visualizing to a LD automatically without feeling SP.

I think this is where the confusion is, your not suppose to feel SP while entering the dream in my technique that doesnt mean you dont go through SP.

DEILD is different because your suppose to enter an LD from SP. And to get the SP your not allowed to move during the brief awakening.

i have to thank you so much for this technique, i got it to work this morning and had the longest, most amazing LD ever. and no, i didnt have SP, i had to get up and shut my alarm clock off. within a minute I was in the dream.

i dont have time to go through the details, but it started at about 8:01-05 and ended at 8:30, the longest LD i've ever had. When i felt it coming to an end I just rubbed my hands and it went on. In the end I woke up because of a garbage truck outside of my house =/ It was so long that I actually started running out of ideas to do lmao.

it was awesome, it was snowing for some reason outside, and i did whatever the hell i wanted. i had my first LD sex experience, ran around, talked to friends and tried to get them to do reality checks incase i was talking to their dream selves, explored, talked to dream characters, etc. The only things I couldn't do where flying (its hard as hell =/) and changing my location ( i tried spinning and visualizing the new location, didnt work).

anyway, thanks for this awesome tech, works like a charm

Originally Posted by BaKo

i have to thank you so much for this technique, i got it to work this morning and had the longest, most amazing LD ever. and no, i didnt have SP,

Oh, so you were walking around your house while sleeping? Of course you had SP. You just didn't feel vibrations because your brain didn't get the chance to fully switch over to beta waves.

Originally Posted by BaKo

and no, i didnt have SP, i had to get up and shut my alarm clock off. within a minute I was in the dream.

You can't turn off your alarm clock if you're in SP. So, there is no SP.

Originally Posted by drewmandan

Oh, so you were walking around your house while sleeping? Of course you had SP. You just didn't feel vibrations because your brain didn't get the chance to fully switch over to beta waves.

Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox

You can't turn off your alarm clock if you're in SP. So, there is no SP.

He was in SP, left SP, then re-entered SP without vibrations due to the altered state of his brain, smart ass.