Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
Right, because the part of SP you feel is the onset of SP. That's when 'vibrations' happen. But you most certainly are in SP with this technique, which makes it DEILD.
Your not suppose to feel SP with my technique. You basically you from visualizing to a LD automatically without feeling SP.

I think this is where the confusion is, your not suppose to feel SP while entering the dream in my technique that doesnt mean you dont go through SP.

DEILD is different because your suppose to enter an LD from SP. And to get the SP your not allowed to move during the brief awakening.