I've had many LDs before, mostly from using the saltcube timer or by doing reality checks for DILDS, but i've never consciously been able to make that transition over to mind-awake body-asleep. I really want to have a traditional OBE or WILD this way, and i've been trying for a while.

i wake up ahead of time, sometimes in the middle of the morning after an REM period. i lay still, do deep breathing relaxation and meditation, but never enter SP. i lay still for sometimes like a half an hour with no advancement. i don't move any part of my body, i keep my eyes still, but still to no avail. i'm getting sick on relying on lucid aids and really want to "naturally" project.

any and all help would be much appreciated! im confident that once i reach SP, i'll be able to get out, its just getting there is too difficult for me.