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      Well.... Fate was unkind last night.

      Didn't get to try the technique sadly. I went to bed at 10:30 pm, planning to wake via my alarm at 4:00am or via having myself automatically awake after any dreams (I'm apparently very good at that.) ... ...... Woke up at 12 am. The wind outside was insanely noisey and it was incredibly hot. I opened up the window in the bathroom expecting it to cool things down, but did it? No, it made whoosh noises from the wind in the alley. I layed there thinking i was about to get to sleep and my brother stumbles through the front door at 1 am. Still i lay there, now feeling incredibly hungry. At 1:30 i realise im not gonna get to sleep in these conditions, so i take my sleeping bag downstairs and my bed cover to lay on. I can't drag my matress downstairs so the Cover will have to do. Once I get downstairs and try to sleep I still feel an incredible hunger, so around 1:45 I get some water and a Chicken Tikka Sandwich ( ) and 'Nosh' for a while. Then, after settling down for one last try before I nearly decide to stay awake all night, I realise that if i Sleep in the living room, i can hear the Rain on the conservatory window, and the wind from the chimeny. And the fridge. And the clock. And the fusebox under the stairs. And the crickets my brother feeds his lizards. I didnt get to sleep till around 3:30. I woke for college at 6.

      I THINK at some point between 10:30 and 12 i had a dream, but i forget everything about it. And i remember forgetting it when i woke up at 12.
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      great tutorial! i've always been wondering were yours was. (ive seen clairity's ,seekers, billybob) you pretty much explained everything, i thought i had some questions for you but i reread it and found them. ill tell you if i get any results.
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      I'll be trying this tonight.

      I have trouble WILDing because I can't keep my eyes closed. It seems like they are trying to force themselves open.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Axel View Post
      For me, it seems as though as I get closest to WILDing before a WBTB. But i'll try anyway. I was gonna try because I woke up at like 4:00 and decided not to try because I have to go to the dentist at 10:00.
      Cool, let me know how you get on.

      Quote Originally Posted by ArtfulBodger View Post
      Well.... Fate was unkind last night.

      Didn't get to try the technique sadly. I went to bed at 10:30 pm, planning to wake via my alarm at 4:00am or via having myself automatically awake after any dreams (I'm apparently very good at that.) ... ...... Woke up at 12 am. The wind outside was insanely noisey and it was incredibly hot. I opened up the window in the bathroom expecting it to cool things down, but did it? No, it made whoosh noises from the wind in the alley. I layed there thinking i was about to get to sleep and my brother stumbles through the front door at 1 am. Still i lay there, now feeling incredibly hungry. At 1:30 i realise im not gonna get to sleep in these conditions, so i take my sleeping bag downstairs and my bed cover to lay on. I can't drag my matress downstairs so the Cover will have to do. Once I get downstairs and try to sleep I still feel an incredible hunger, so around 1:45 I get some water and a Chicken Tikka Sandwich ( ) and 'Nosh' for a while. Then, after settling down for one last try before I nearly decide to stay awake all night, I realise that if i Sleep in the living room, i can hear the Rain on the conservatory window, and the wind from the chimeny. And the fridge. And the clock. And the fusebox under the stairs. And the crickets my brother feeds his lizards. I didnt get to sleep till around 3:30. I woke for college at 6.

      I THINK at some point between 10:30 and 12 i had a dream, but i forget everything about it. And i remember forgetting it when i woke up at 12.
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      Last night sucked.
      Oh no! Sounds like you had a right nightmare trying last night! Good luck if you try again

      Quote Originally Posted by aceboy View Post
      great tutorial! i've always been wondering were yours was. (ive seen clairity's ,seekers, billybob) you pretty much explained everything, i thought i had some questions for you but i reread it and found them. ill tell you if i get any results.
      Thanks I have never really posted this. I did have another rechnique but this one works so much better because you don't have to focus on HI like so many other techniques. So good for those people who get more physical sensations than visual.

      Good luck and let me know how you get on

      Quote Originally Posted by Terrorhawker View Post
      I'll be trying this tonight.

      I have trouble WILDing because I can't keep my eyes closed. It seems like they are trying to force themselves open.
      It sounds to me like you are trying to focus on something and by doing so your eyes wanting to open. I would try relaxing them first. Are you trying this in the dark? Also if you are trying to focus on something more than likely it is as if you are looking up, I think a lot of people naturally look up with their eyes closed. This sometimes means we are struggling to keep our eyes fully shut.

      I would try looking down, if you have to look somewhere, this should make it easier to keep your eyelids fully closed. However I don't think it is too much of a problem having a little gap at the bottom of your eyelids, providing you are in a dark room with nothing to distract you.

      Hope this makes sense? If you need anymore info/help let me know

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      Great write up, Adam. I like how you brought attention to the fact that you actually have to fall asleep during a WILD. Lots of tutorials I've read forget this or take it for granted and confuse people into staying awake for hours.

      I've had lots of success with tactile sensations also. I don't sleep on my back, so I will stay on my side and imagine I'm swinging back and forth like a hammock or bouncing up and down on the mattress. I like the repetition/ rhythm.

      I'm going to try this tonight.

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      as clairity said earlier. it would be nice to WILD without WTBT, which is able to do if you're very tired.
      Nice guide to. It said quite much the same as i read before, but it was some new and usefull stuff. Thx m8.

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      For the second time i have been so unbelieveably close to WILDing.

      I keep blacking out during some point between the sinking feeling and weird noises, to the actual lucid dream.

      It seems im lying there, having weird SP sensations, and then i know that i lost conciousness for a while, but as soon as my dream starts, i know its a dream.

      I had a great lucid last night, but i guess this only counts as a DILD, so ill keep trying =]
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      Sinking sinking sinking

      It's so weird that I stumbled upon this technique because just the other night I was doing almost exactly what you described - more or less by accident though. I was just very tired, but I wanted to have a lucid dream and I mused about how cool it would be to just sink through my bed and right into an LD. The more I concentrated on that, the more I felt that it was actually happening! I fell asleep before I got too far though. Phooey. With this technique all nicely written up though, I just have to give it another shot tonight.


      Thanks a lot!
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      I just thought of a question after I read one of your replies, Adam.

      Once my body feels heavy and numb, I can induce some physical sensations pretty easily. I feel like I'm being swung on the horizontal, or rolling around. They feel rather strong (maybe not as strong as you describe) and I'm not in SP. How far along does that mean I am? Should I try entering a dream then?
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      I tried this but when my alarm went off I just switched it off and went straight back to sleep :\ Should I try moving my alarm further away from my bed, and put a piece of paper on it saying "WILD" so I wake up properly and don't do the same again?

      edit - moved the alarm to the other side of my room, and taped a piece of paper saying "WILD" to it. also printed off the instructions to the technique and put them nearby.
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      Hey,
      Great technique..
      Last night I kept slipping into Lucidness and out again.
      I knew I was going Lucid but then I came out right before I did then that happened about 9 times lasting about 2 seconds each.

      Anyway couldn't remember anything else about last night so i'll try again tonight..
      Haah thanks

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      Adam: Thanks for the tutorial, I found it very informative. One question if I may? Can you use pain, or discomfort, as the sensations you work with to get to WILD, or does the sensations have to be more comfortable? Do you imagine the sensations, or wait for them to appear on their own? Thanks for the feedback. Best sea bee, (a sailor forever)

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      WOW sorry for the late replies guys - my work Laptop is being monitored since they found 144 viruses on there so can't get on during the day at the moment lol.

      Will try answer best all your questions below

      Quote Originally Posted by Axel View Post
      Ok Adam one more question lol,

      When I was trying this 2 nights ago I got all the sensations and then all of a sudden my eyes wouldn't stop twitching! They kept twitching real bad. But like while they were twitching I could see like white dots all over my vision. It was like that when my eyes were open too. Any ideas to why this was like this? (the twitching and the dots)
      Seems like you were experiencing HI See original post for link to explanation of this). To be honest I never experience this when I WILD - I developed this technique for this very reason, because I couldn't get to HI when I tried to WILD so needed to reach lucidity another way. Was the twiching so bad it had an adverse affect on your efforts?

      Quote Originally Posted by Riot Maker View Post
      Worked for me last night.

      I just basicly followed the procedure and after about 10 minutes of intense sensations, i just had that feeling that i could roll out of my bed, and i did.

      thanks adam, great tutorial btw.
      Awesome! So glad it worked for you! How dramatic were the sensations for you? What did you feel? Falling, swinging etc?



      Quote Originally Posted by kaeraz View Post
      It's so weird that I stumbled upon this technique because just the other night I was doing almost exactly what you described - more or less by accident though. I was just very tired, but I wanted to have a lucid dream and I mused about how cool it would be to just sink through my bed and right into an LD. The more I concentrated on that, the more I felt that it was actually happening! I fell asleep before I got too far though. Phooey. With this technique all nicely written up though, I just have to give it another shot tonight.


      Thanks a lot!
      Hey thanks for the message and good luck! Let me know how you get on

      Quote Originally Posted by Sean999 View Post
      I just thought of a question after I read one of your replies, Adam.

      Once my body feels heavy and numb, I can induce some physical sensations pretty easily. I feel like I'm being swung on the horizontal, or rolling around. They feel rather strong (maybe not as strong as you describe) and I'm not in SP. How far along does that mean I am? Should I try entering a dream then?
      Seems you are pretty much there. When you get these strong feelings it is important not to concentrate on your physical body, but your dream body, and go with all the sensations, the swinging like you describe! Its hard to recognise the transition but you get to a point where they are strong enough to force yourself into a dream. I will try this tonight and post my experiences in here, and would encourage others too do so also.

      The best way to do this is to just practice and if you try to get into the dream too early, just go back to the sensations and wait for them to get stronger and try again, you will soon get the right balance

      Quote Originally Posted by cougarelite View Post
      Just wanted to say, this guide is extremely well written! I can't wait to try this out. I'll post back any success/questions. Thanks for sharing!
      No problem, good luck. If you have any questions feel free to ask

      Quote Originally Posted by Robot_Butler View Post
      I tried this again last night, Adam. Great success!

      I was on my back imagining my body falling backwards, and that my bedsheets were like a parachute that the wind was pressing against me as I fell. Like I was falling through space while wrapped in a bedsheet.

      I hit sleep paralysis and started feeling my body humming and vibrating like mad. My girlfriend kept kicking me, so I kept popping out of SP. Once I was in, it was pretty easy to return, so after about an hour of trying not to get mad at the lady, I finally hit a great bout of SP.

      I decided it was time to finally enter a dream, so I started imagining the feeling of floating upwards. I was trying to make it as vivid as possible, and next think I knew, I slammed against my ceiling. I reached out my hands and felt the texture of the ceiling for a minute or two to make sure I was 100% locked in the dream, then I opened my eyes. I then started climbing around on the ceiling like spiderman.

      This whole time, I was listening to a man and a woman discussing Tax Law. They were talking about the alternative minimum tax and how it didn't allow for the deduction of wholesale grocery purchases at your farmer's market.

      I was crawling on the ceiling trying to figure out what the hell they were talking about. As I turned the corner to climb down my bedroom wall, I felt a huge gust of wind, and looked down to find myself outside, on the side of a tall building above an outdoor farmers market. The two people talking were walking along the street far below me.
      That's an awesome experience, please if you have any more can you post them here, I think I am going to collect these for people to read to see how the transitions work for different people as this seems like a common question so far.

      Quote Originally Posted by sea bee View Post
      Adam: Thanks for the tutorial, I found it very informative. One question if I may? Can you use pain, or discomfort, as the sensations you work with to get to WILD, or does the sensations have to be more comfortable? Do you imagine the sensations, or wait for them to appear on their own? Thanks for the feedback. Best sea bee, (a sailor forever)
      I don't know about pain but sometimes it feels like my body is moving in ways which are not physically possible. For example my back bending in a way which couldn't physically be done. If you are close to lucidity this shouldn't hurt, as we know you don't really feel pain in lucid dreams.

      Adam.

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      hey Adam,

      when u talked about the noises/distractions, does that include pattern noises (ex: air conditioner, washing machine .....) cause for some reason i tend to be less distracted when there's a noise pattern in the background ....

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      Quote Originally Posted by adraw View Post
      May I have one more questin. And that question would be a little more difficult to answer. First let me describe my state. I lie in my bed. And do some relaxation techniques. My body can feel numb and i am loosing my sensations. And now. What should I do. How can I concentrate on feelings I never experienced before.

      Actually. What was your learning process? You said, that mastering inducing this sensations is the key, but i cannot find out the process how you do it from start. It could help, if you described this process of induction in more detail. Maybe use some more words or images to describe this. You might start just from beginning, when you feel your body. then you perform relaxation.... And then .... You do induce these sensations. When do you start to induce them and how does the process feel like. {so I am actually asking you to slow down the process and tell me, whats are the sensations from the beginning.}

      So in conclusion:
      • Before you began doing these induction exercises, what was your induction potential? {so we know, where you started learning}
      • What was the process of your learning, what were the difficulties, and what made you improve your tactile visualisation? {so we know your learning process, and so we can adjust it to fit our needs}
      And maybe that would be enough for now. You know why I am asking this. Every technique can be only hardly adapted, when we dont know the background information.

      Thanx in advance and also thanx for one of the best tutorials I readed so far.
      Okay I will do my best to answer this, if you need more information please ask:

      Before you began doing these induction exercises, what was your induction potential?

      OKay to start with I had tried and successfully achieved a normal WILD - this is where you remain still, drift off into the dream automatically but I found it very hard to maintain any real focus due to the lack ho HI experienced and my concentration levels.

      So by chance I stumbled across inducing lucid dreams through physical sensations. One night I had woken up in the night needing the toilet, when I got back to bed I felt strange sensations, like I was sliding backwards, and didn't know why it was happening, but I went with it to see where they would take me, and by chance entered a lucid dream, so this really is how I came across it, because I had this natural ability to induce these sensations. Some people find it easy to experience HI, others find it easier to induce these sensations, I guess for me my potential was high because I found it easy, but for others this will differ.
      What was the process of your learning, what were the difficulties, and what made you improve your tactile visualisation?

      The process of my learning was fairly straight forward. Having mistakenly stumbled across this technique I began to try induce the sensations myself, rather than waiting for them to happen myself as had done previously. I learnt that one key thing which helped was when lying still and with my eyes shut it was like I was focussing on my eyelids. But soon I tried looking beyond them, and my vision would change to seem like I was focussing further and further away from them. I used this then to feel like it was me moving away from this rather than my sight looking further ahead if that makes sense? So when I am looking into my eyelids, I visualise my back sinking into the bed, and at the same time my vision would look beyond my eyelids further convincing myself I was sinking further and further into my bed. And from here once you get these sensations they pretty much take over.

      Some difficulties were my breathing. I found sometimes that if I was breathing too deeply my breathing in would counteract the sensations of me sinking. Because your stomach/check moves outwards when you inhale, so this counteracted my sensations I was trying to induce. So then I would lye still in my bed, waiting till I was tired and ready to sleep and my breathing had slowed right down, then I would be ready to try. Once I had realised this, then it was a matter of using my vision it help induce the sinking sensations, which doesn't always happen at first, but after a while you begin to feel it. Something which helped was digging my back into my bed and holding it there for 30/60 seconds, and then you relax, this gives the opposite feeling that it is in fact your legs sinking, which helped a lot.

      I don't think anything made me improve really, it was all about learning ways in which I could induce these sensations, so using my vision and pushing my back into the bed to kick start the feelings, but different people may find other ways to kick start them, and if anyone does find another way I would love to hear about them!

      Hope this is a little clearer, I will update my technique to include more of this information, as never really thought about it in as much detail as I have explained here.

      Quote Originally Posted by wa'el View Post
      hey Adam,

      when u talked about the noises/distractions, does that include pattern noises (ex: air conditioner, washing machine .....) cause for some reason i tend to be less distracted when there's a noise pattern in the background ....

      cheers,

      wa'el
      I think a constant background noise can help, but sudden changes to sounds I think might interfere. So I would perhaps see if you could put on some form of relaxation CD on repeat or something if you think a background noise would help.

      I personally leave my PC on and the constant noise it makes often helps me.

      Adam.

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      Pretty cool but still need help!

      Ok I tried this for my first time today during an afternoon nap. I focused on my back sinking into my bed, and within minutes I felt like I was spinning out of control . After about a minute the sensations just stopped and I felt like I was just lying still in my bed again. I tried to get the sensations back, but failed. It seemed so easy the first time. This might be a dumb question, but could you maybe explain a little bit more on how you visualize yourself sinking into your bed?

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      man, when i wild. i just think about anything at all. then, when my body feels its time, it will shake like crazy for about 3 seconds, then i dont even have time to think and im all of a sudden in a dream. i dont think WILDs need to be so complicated. just lay absolutely still
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      That weird sensation you mentioned about focusing beyond your eyelids makes perfect sense to me and I often get this when going to sleep.

      But the weird thing is, I can get this feeling with my eyes OPEN, 100% of the time I try, in a matter of seconds...like if I am reading in bed and I hold the book about 10 inches from my face and I focus on the book and the words inside, it happens almost instantly, and whatever im focusing on slowly gets further and further away.
      If i divert my attention from the book my vision returns back to normal, but if I look back at the book it starts to get further and further away again.

      It sometimes actually feels like im in the back of my body, moving slowly away, when it happens; like im looking at myself looking at the book. If that makes any sense.
      Very strange.

      I will try this method tonight, with eyes closed, and let you guys know how it turns out

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      Thank you! Such an amazing walk through

      Even though I'm very new to this the first thing I ever tried was a WILD. The furthest I got was a numb body (not sp I think) and I started to hear music at will while listening to Binaural beats.

      I think I'll try this method tonight.

      However, there is something slightly scary about the prospect of SP but I guess it's perfectly normal. Also, would you suggest I do this with the WBTB method? I don't think I could do it otherwise. When my mind drifts I merely fall asleep.
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      I've been away from LDing for a few months now (screw schoolwork), but this seems like a pretty good place to start again. I'll try this tonight and hopefully more than that. I'll post any results. :-)
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      OK I can say for sure now. Staying awake for 5 minutes doesn't work. I have tried twice but I just fall asleep and lose focus. The problem for me is that I find little to do when I'm awake. Now I have decided to print this page to read druing WBTB and hopefully I'll have more success ;P

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      I tried this last night and came close... I think.

      I set my alarm for 4 am and went to sleep around 11 pm. When my alarm went off I got up and used the restroom, then got a glass of water. I got on my computer and revised the tutorial, then after around 7 to 8 minutes I went back to bed.
      I rested for a couple of minutes relaxing different points on my body and letting my heartbeat slow. After this my entire body was relaxed and I started focusing on my back sinking. I did this for a while (don't know the exact time) and went into SP. After this I continued to focus on my back sinking and after a little while it felt like my body was spinning really fast out of control. I focused hard on the feeling of spinning and tried to land myself somewhere, but it never happened and I never entered the dream. So I soon gave up.

      Did I do all of this right? How long does it usually take to enter the dream once you reach spinning?

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      Your technique did help with the WBTB. I was sinking into the bed almost immediately and began to put together an image of a forrest with a purple sky in the background..but my brother had his tv on in the other room which kept pulling me out of it and made it difficult each time to go back to where I left off at.
      My only other option was to completely abandon my progress and turn it off myself.
      But today I'm gaurenteed silence, so hopefully I'll be pulled into lucidity for the first time.
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      Good luck, let me know how you get on

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