Thread: The Real (Easy) Way To WILD

I've WILD'ed the past two nights in a row. They were my first two intentional WILD's, and they were very easy. I wish I had known how to do it the right way before, because I'd probably have hundreds of WILD's by now.

BillyBob, some other people, and I were discussing WILD's, and how to do them. BillyBob said, "The objective is not to stay awake, but to fall asleep." At first I found this confusing, but then I knew it was very obvious. I know there are others that share the same point of view, so it wasn't just BillyBob.

This technique is no different than falling asleep. Well, there's a small difference. You have to keep a part of your mind conscious. The easiest way to do this is to control your train of thought and imagination. Not enough to keep you awake, but not too little to fall asleep unconsciously.

Here's what I do:

1. Fall asleep for about 5 hours.
2. Wake up, write my dreams down, and use the bathroom if I really need to (not necessary if you feel fine).
3. Get back in bed and just relax.
4. When I'm good and relaxed, I get into a position that I usually fall asleep in, which is on my stomach.
5. Now, I just think about things. Anything (I stray away from sexual thoughts for obvious reasons). It doesn't take much effort. It's important not to move, like most WILD techniques. Swallow when you need to.
6. There comes a point where you suddenly feel very light. You want the opposite to happen. At this point, you want to induce heaviness. Once you do, you should enter SP almost instantly (at least, that's what happens to me).
7. Let SP play itself out, and you should be in a dream. Do a reality check. If it's not a dream, just try again. Like other WILD techniques, it's easy to get back to the point just before failure.

The problem with all WILD techniques is that there is a very fine line between failing and succeeding. Imagine you have a ball in your hand. In front of you is a line that you must roll the ball onto. If you roll too hard, the ball goes too far. If you don't push hard enough, the ball stops short. That's exactly how a WILD is. Fortunately, once you understand what is going on, it's as easy as falling asleep.

EDIT: Almost forgot something. The only reason this (or any other technique) would be hard is if you have a doubtful or negative view of it. The thing with lucid dreaming is that it is easy. You just have to have the right state of mind.

EDIT 2: FreeOne brought up a good point I forgot to mention. Obviously, the steps I take might not work for some of you. Tailor it to suit yourself, but keep the core of it there. Fall asleep, but remain conscious.

Helpful Tips:

• When you go to bed at night, there are two things that are trying to get to sleep: your mind, and your body. In order for a successful WILD, your body needs to require sleep. So, the day before your attempt, I recommend doing some exercise/physical activity. This also means that you spend less time waiting to enter SP. About an hour of exercise is good.
• To help yourself induce the feeling of heaviness, imagine sand bags (or other heavy objects) are being tied to your joints. This should make it easier to induce the heaviness and speed up the process.
• I feel that it's better to concentrate on the vibrations and movement brought on my SP. Leave the dream creation up to your mind to create. However, it may not work any better for you, but I find it helps to enter the dream.
• If the process seems to be taking too long, induce the heaviness anyways. It's possible that there's no indication for you that you are about to enter SP. This should also help speed up the process (as stated earlier)

Thoughts? Comments?

I'll give this a shot tonight. I always wake up in the middle of the night, and so I always have an opportunity to attempt a WILD (and usually do try). I usually never succeed. Got really close a few nights ago though.

Cool, I'll print this out tonight and try it. Thanks, I'll get back to you! -BeeT

Total LDs since 3/15/08 :!!1!! (DILD)

Okay, thanks for the replies. Just remember that with all techniques, you gotta stick with it for a while. Don't base your view of a technique on one try.

My biggest problem is getting further into SP. I can get really relaxed, almost to the point of falling asleep, sometimes into SP, but can't remain in it. I have a hard time finding that balance of Awake:Sleep ratio, and usually end up further on the awake side than sleep. I'll give it a go through next friday, see if It works any better.

I'll attempt this tonight.

Cool, I'll try this tonight.
I think it's common that all the things are the same as falling asleep normally, which is why it could be hard for some people to stay conscious while their thoughts stray further.

This sounds really logical. My first and only sp so far was after I gave up a wild and simply tried to fall alseep...

BillyBob, some other people, and I were discussing WILD's, and how to do them. BillyBob said, "The objective is not to stay awake, but to fall asleep." At first I found this confusing, but then I knew it was very obvious. I know there are others that share the same point of view, so it wasn't just BillyBob.

This technique is no different than falling asleep. Well, there's a small difference. You have to keep a part of your mind conscious. The easiest way to do this is to control your train of thought and imagination. Not enough to keep you awake, but not too little to fall asleep unconsciously.

I've been trying to explain this for ages! I liked how you explained that you are just trying to fall asleep, not stay awake. Thats what makes WILDing so difficult for some people. They make themselves as uncomfortable as possible (not swallowing, not itching, not moving, trying to focus on just one thought), and then they get mad when they dont get SP or complete the WILD. All you need to do is do what you normally do when going to sleep, but stay conscious.

Anyway, I liked how you explained that. I dont know so much about the steps, as I believe everyone WILDs a bit different, but all together a great guide! good job.

Good point, I just assumed everyone would take it and tailor it for themselves. I'll edit the post.

[QUOTE=FreeOne;741670]I've been trying to explain this for ages! I liked how you explained that you are just trying to fall asleep, not stay awake. Thats what makes WILDing so difficult for some people. They make themselves as uncomfortable as possible (not swallowing, not itching, not moving, trying to focus on just one thought), and then they get mad when they dont get SP or complete the WILD. All you need to do is do what you normally do when going to sleep, but stay conscious. QUOTE]

so you you can move and still WILD? as soon as i hit SP my feet start twitching and it pisses me off!

I'll try this as soon as I'm on summer break. But it seems I would just drift to sleep and not ever get to this light feeling point.

Originally Posted by Sean999

There comes a point where you suddenly feel very light. You want the opposite to happen. At this point, you want to induce heaviness. Once you do, you should enter SP almost instantly (at least, that's what happens to me).

What do you mean with inducing heaviness? How are you supposed to do that?

Originally Posted by Iamerik

What do you mean with inducing heaviness? How are you supposed to do that?

That's impossible to explain. It's to do with your mind. Believe yourself getting heavier... it's just impossible to explain that.

Well, actually, you jsut explained it. All you do is imagine yourself getting heavier.

Here's a tip: Imagine large sand bags (or any heavy objects) are tied to your legs, ankles, etc. That should do it. Your body should actually start to feel heavy.

Well I guess this worked. Although I didn't feel light or heavy, and I also moved. But I got into SP and then into a lucid.

I tried to Wild today with this in mind and something funny happend...

First I tried to get 100% in sleeping, not in Wild, mood. I tried to sleep like every day and to forget everyting else. After a few minutes I got really tired and then every few seconds I thought of something to stay awake. It was nothing special, but then I wanted to stop and looked at the clock, 1 hour has passed, but it feld like 5 minutes and I'm not sure if I was sleeping for this time or not. Now I would explain it like the feeling of a reset or something, because I'm feeling like after 2 hours of sleep, at the same time my head feels like it would explode...

How I did:

1. Fall asleep for about 5 hours. Yup, I did that. I slept about 5 hours and 20 minutes...

2. Wake up. Yop, I woke up. But I didn't remember my dreams at all

3. Get back in bed and just relax. Yeah, I did that.

4. When I'm good and relaxed, I get into a position that I usually fall asleep in, which is on my stomach. I did. No doubt.

5. Now, I just think about things. Anything (I stray away from sexual thoughts for obvious reasons). It doesn't take much effort. It's important not to move, like most WILD techniques. Swallow when you need to. I did this as well, as well as I could.

6. There comes a point where you suddenly feel very light. I must have fallen asleep before that...

Ok, so night number went bad. I fell asleep for around 7 hours, woke up, and attempted the method. I must've been pretty tired, because I just fell asleep within minutes, woke up an hour later, tried again, and then again, just fell asleep lol.

Guess I'll just have to wait and see what tomorrow morning brings

Sorry for the lack of activity on my part guys, been busy the past day or so.

Thanks for answering some of the questions, The Tao, it's been a big help. I'm also glad to hear that people have had success with this method. I'll try to answer as many questions as I can.

Venomblood: It's possible that you are not staying up long enough, or not controlling your thoughts consciously enough. To help you out, you can try to do math problems in your head until you feel like your mind has woken up a bit. It also takes persistence if you want to succeed.

Namwan: The Tao answered this very well, couldn't have said it better myself. But if you find that you are constantly staying up for long periods of time, you may want to consider just staying in bed once you wake up. Not even getting up to write in your journal (it's a sacrifice, I know).

kaeraz and The Tao: When I get the vibrations/sensations of movement, I concentrate on them rather than the dream. Really feel them, go with them. Your mind usually makes up the dream on it's own, so it's not really required to visualize a dream. Unless you really want a specific location, of course. Try that, see if it works.

Holiace: Like stated earlier, you may or may not feel any sensations at all. If nothing happens for a while, try inducing heaviness anyway. This can help speed up the process if it takes a really long time.

Again, glad to hear about the successes. Heck, glad to hear people are trying it out. I wish everyone good luck, and feel free to continue posting questions.

Well, what am i suppose to do when i'm in SP?
Last night i did WBTB + trying to WILD.
I got the feeling of heaviness and got into SP, but nothing happends after that.
I stayed still for a long time, and then got out of SP.

My biggest problem is falling asleep. I guess I can use it to my advantage, but it will only be through a lot of trial and error.

Anyway, giving this a shot, though I won't get much sleep tonight, so failrate is relatively high

Originally Posted by Sean999

I've WILD'ed the past two nights in a row. They were my first two intentional WILD's, and they were very easy. I wish I had known how to do it the right way before, because I'd probably have hundreds of WILD's by now.

BillyBob, some other people, and I were discussing WILD's, and how to do them. BillyBob said, "The objective is not to stay awake, but to fall asleep." At first I found this confusing, but then I knew it was very obvious. I know there are others that share the same point of view, so it wasn't just BillyBob.

This technique is no different than falling asleep. Well, there's a small difference. You have to keep a part of your mind conscious. The easiest way to do this is to control your train of thought and imagination. Not enough to keep you awake, but not too little to fall asleep unconsciously.

Here's what I do:

1. Fall asleep for about 5 hours.
2. Wake up, write my dreams down, and use the bathroom if I really need to (not necessary if you feel fine).
3. Get back in bed and just relax.
4. When I'm good and relaxed, I get into a position that I usually fall asleep in, which is on my stomach.
5. Now, I just think about things. Anything (I stray away from sexual thoughts for obvious reasons). It doesn't take much effort. It's important not to move, like most WILD techniques. Swallow when you need to.
6. There comes a point where you suddenly feel very light. You want the opposite to happen. At this point, you want to induce heaviness. Once you do, you should enter SP almost instantly (at least, that's what happens to me).
7. Let SP play itself out, and you should be in a dream. Do a reality check. If it's not a dream, just try again. Like other WILD techniques, it's easy to get back to the point just before failure.

The problem with all WILD techniques is that there is a very fine line between failing and succeeding. Imagine you have a ball in your hand. In front of you is a line that you must roll the ball onto. If you roll too hard, the ball goes too far. If you don't push hard enough, the ball stops short. That's exactly how a WILD is. Fortunately, once you understand what is going on, it's as easy as falling asleep.

EDIT: Almost forgot something. The only reason this (or any other technique) would be hard is if you have a doubtful or negative view of it. The thing with lucid dreaming is that it is easy. You just have to have the right state of mind.

EDIT 2: FreeOne brought up a good point I forgot to mention. Obviously, the steps I take might not work for some of you. Tailor it to suit yourself, but keep the core of it there. Fall asleep, but remain conscious.

Helpful Tips:

• When you go to bed at night, there are two things that are trying to get to sleep: your mind, and your body. In order for a successful WILD, your body needs to require sleep. So, the day before your attempt, I recommend doing some exercise/physical activity. This also means that you spend less time waiting to enter SP. About an hour of exercise is good.
• To help yourself induce the feeling of heaviness, imagine sand bags (or other heavy objects) are being tied to your joints. This should make it easier to induce the heaviness and speed up the process.
• I feel that it's better to concentrate on the vibrations and movement brought on my SP. Leave the dream creation up to your mind to create. However, it may not work any better for you, but I find it helps to enter the dream.
• If the process seems to be taking too long, induce the heaviness anyways. It's possible that there's no indication for you that you are about to enter SP. This should also help speed up the process (as stated earlier)

Thoughts? Comments?

You mentioned "Just trying to fall asleep" while keeping yourself awake only very little. This seems to Connect to the "Passive Awareness" I've heard people speak of before.I've only NEARLY had a WILD 5 times, but otherwise allways ended up either falling asleep unconsciously or Staying awake

Can you, or anyone else, get a little more specific into explaining this "Passive Awareness"? .

Passive Awareness is used as a form of dream control. It, along with Forced Control, is explained in BillyBob's thread here.

I think it has nothing to do with WILD'ing, but if I'm wrong, someone feel free to correct me. Hope that clears it up.

Hrrm... I've having troubles again lol. I cannot get even into SP now . I tried FILD after I failed the WILD method a couple times, and that didn't work either.