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      Are you familiar with the Method of Loci? I think you should be aware of it.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_of_loci

      As human beings, we are programmed to remember progression through spaces. Its one of those genetic survival traits. People have been abusing this for thousands of years to remember long chains of information in a certain order.

      The importance of this technique, I believe, relies on the use of a familiar space. Any progression through a space you are familiar with will work. I use my house and yard, and go room to room touching objects and door handles. I have a preset progression that I already use for my 'Memory Mansion".
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      I tried this this morning. It didn't work for me. I just slipped off into regular sleep, and when I woke, I didn't remember any dreams. I have to admit, I woke up after only 5:45 of sleep, which is still an hour more than I usually sleep before my WBTB, but not quite the 6 recommended. I'll give it a try before my WILD tomorrow morning.

      H8, do you do this every night? Or do you take breaks? What would you say your success rate is?

      Weston, do you have a dream journal? I'd like to read about your experience. Did you find yourself still in your back yard, or did you end up in a totally different scene?
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      Quote Originally Posted by unseen wombat View Post
      I tried this this morning. It didn't work for me. I just slipped off into regular sleep, and when I woke, I didn't remember any dreams. I have to admit, I woke up after only 5:45 of sleep, which is still an hour more than I usually sleep before my WBTB, but not quite the 6 recommended. I'll give it a try before my WILD tomorrow morning.

      H8, do you do this every night? Or do you take breaks? What would you say your success rate is?

      Weston, do you have a dream journal? I'd like to read about your experience. Did you find yourself still in your back yard, or did you end up in a totally different scene?
      I try it most nights, and it works 9/10 times if I do it correctly. I cant do it every night because Im in University and Some of my courses are at 8:00 so i have to wake up at 6:00 which doesnt give me enough time to fulfill the 6 hours needed

      Also 6 hours is the minimum threshold that you have to pass. I noticed that most of my successes happen during brief awakenings around 7 hours after falling asleep.

      About the dream journal. I never record my dreams. This technique doesnt need dream recall as other traditional methods do. For this technique recognizing brief awakenings are more important.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Robot_Butler View Post
      Are you familiar with the Method of Loci? I think you should be aware of it.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_of_loci

      As human beings, we are programmed to remember progression through spaces. Its one of those genetic survival traits. People have been abusing this for thousands of years to remember long chains of information in a certain order.

      The importance of this technique, I believe, relies on the use of a familiar space. Any progression through a space you are familiar with will work. I use my house and yard, and go room to room touching objects and door handles. I have a preset progression that I already use for my 'Memory Mansion".
      correct, visualizing somewhere you've never been is very difficult. A backyard is a perfect place to do his technique.

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      Quote Originally Posted by I H8 Reality View Post
      correct, visualizing somewhere you've never been is very difficult. A backyard is a perfect place to do his technique.
      I think it might help me to walk around my backyard, and house and look at everything before I goto bed. Then practice a bit to make sure I remember what it all looks like.

      I have a bad memory when trying to imagine that. But it looks right in my lucids
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      I will try this tonight. This will be easy for me considering that I get 6hrs of sleep anyways. So as soon as I wake up, I will just go back to sleep.

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      Ok, see if i got this right:

      Sleep for six hours, then wake up by alarm, then sleep again, and wake up normally, then touching stuff in your garden?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Thiada View Post
      Ok, see if i got this right:

      Sleep for six hours, then wake up by alarm, then sleep again, and wake up normally, then touching stuff in your garden?
      You sleep for six hours, wake up, go back to sleep, wake up and visualize touching stuff in your garden.

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      Lets just say you go to bed at 12:00am. You should set your alarm clock for 7:00 am because it should take you an hour to fall asleep.

      When the alarm clock goes off at 7:00am turn it off and go back to sleep.

      Your next brief awakening should be roughly at 8:00am and this is when you should apply the visualization.

      The visualization is you walking around the perimeter of your backyard during a sunny day. And while you visualize yourself doing this you should touch objects in your backyard such as doors, walls, chairs, BBQ machines etc.

      If all works out, you should enter a Lucid Dream.

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      I am loving this thread, iH8reality! This morning I went back to bed after 8 hours sleep and WILDed with reasonable success. I had intense vibrations whereby it felt like an earthquake because my bed was shaking so hard and I also had a very vivid sensation of a presence in my room right down to hearing the floorboards creak. I was home alone at the time and so did a quick check just to be sure by lifting my head and looking briefly round my room. Luckily doing this didn't ruin my WILD and I then entered a wonderful flying dream. I was high up in the clouds flying with the birds. It was so peaceful.

      However, I often have trouble distinguishing when I am no longer visually imaging (meditating) and when I have actually entered a dream. I do feel myself being sucked into the dream but because my conscious level doesn't alter I just think I'm still meditating vividly. I will definitely try your technique and let you know how I get on.

      Do you perform RCs as you walk round the garden in your mind? Do you think this might this help me recognise when I've started dreaming?

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      Also love your username! It's funny coz the other night I was walking out of a restaurant and I thought about how I had to walk all the way across the carpark to my car and I found myself wishing it was a dream so I could fly there. I then found myself thinking about how much reality sucked compared to lucid dreaming and your username came to mind! Ha ha!
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      So it's kind of like WILD? well, either way i'm gonna try it.... when I can get enough sleep

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      The problem with all these techniques is, is that they one by one, explain what actions you need to take to get into a lucid dream. But the key to getting into a lucid dream is not your actions, but your thoughts. These techniques will only work when they lead to those thoughts you need to enter a lucid dream. But how about you just tell us what you are thinking? What thoughts did you follow to enter the dreamworld?

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      I think the entire reason this works is that you're first of all in a good point in your sleep cycle. That's necessary for any WILD technique. Secondly, and just as importantly, this keeps your mind aware and occupied and off of thoughts of your physical body.

      I haven't got it to work yet, but I haven't had but one chance to actually try it as recommended.

      Kaeli, maybe you should just try to sleep in a little longer so you're more awake. Remember he said 6 hours is the minimum threshhold. Really seven if you count the time he says it takes to fall asleep. (It doesn't usually take me that long. More like half that or less actually. Unless he's talking about how long it takes your body to fall asleep. All I know is that my mind is unconscious after less than a half hour).
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      I think this may be a DEILD, but you didn't really specificly say reather you move or not, in that case, this method works alot for me too. But neither DEILD or VILD (the new VILD) were created by you, but I know what you mean when you say your technique, basicly your own personal twist on it. Though I'm sure if you changed the way you'd do it, like try to ride a bike or roll, you'd get the same results.
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      OMFG, I’m new here and glad I’ve found this place! I’ve been doing this for the past few weeks BUT I was stuck in a dark room in my dream but I was conscious, I was like wake me up wake me up, it was the same method described here, i go to school so whiles I wake up and everybody is getting ready for school (brief awakening) I start thinking about school and regular stuff then go back to sleep then I’m sucked into this black room, that what it was, I always wondered what it was! This is real and its not hard as you think, THANK YOU MAN! I’m going to do this again this time aware! I was even afraid to go to sleep because I always got sucked into a black empty room talking where nobody could hear me, When I have the brief waking I think deeply about life and the new day, planning school, art class, homework, etc. I go back to sleep and BOOM I was like “Here we go again”, so how do I visualize and start creating my dream?

      * This was all before coming here, how to go on adventures and is it even a lucid dream *
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