Thread: LucidDreamGod's DEILD/Chaining Lucid Dreams technique

now when you say imagine yourself doing a summersault, do you mean from the first person perspective or is it from the third person? or does it not really make a difference

Originally Posted by oubaseballd3

now when you say imagine yourself doing a summersault, do you mean from the first person perspective or is it from the third person? or does it not really make a difference

That has to do with visualization not tactile, but yeah it doesn't matter what way you want to visualize it.

im going to try this tonight. For some reason the past couple days ive woken up 3 or 4 times each night so this seems like it would work perfect.

Totally awesome technique! One question. (Sorry if this has already been discussed somewhere else. If so, I'd appreciate it if you point me in the right direction. Thanks either way.) Actually, someone else asked it earlier in the thread, and you sort of answered it, and I tried it, but I was wondering if something else would work- that doesn't seem to work for me. How would you wake up at the right time each time? I've tried to wake up at the end of each dream, but I end up not waking up. I've tried focusing on the time I want to wake up at, and autosuggestion, both with no success. Do you have any other tips for waking up at the end of each dream? And I would try a multi-time alarm, but I don't have one, and I don't have access to anything like that. Any other suggestions? It would be much appreciated. Again, awesome technique! I like the sounds of it better than the other DEILD method I've heard of, imagining yourself in the dream. This technique suits my learning style/strengths more. Props to you! Oh, and sorry if my question was stupid or something. I'm not exactly the most awake.
~L_D_W~

Originally Posted by Lucid_Dreamer_Wannabe

Totally awesome technique! One question. (Sorry if this has already been discussed somewhere else. If so, I'd appreciate it if you point me in the right direction. Thanks either way.) Actually, someone else asked it earlier in the thread, and you sort of answered it, and I tried it, but I was wondering if something else would work- that doesn't seem to work for me. How would you wake up at the right time each time? I've tried to wake up at the end of each dream, but I end up not waking up. I've tried focusing on the time I want to wake up at, and autosuggestion, both with no success. Do you have any other tips for waking up at the end of each dream? And I would try a multi-time alarm, but I don't have one, and I don't have access to anything like that. Any other suggestions? It would be much appreciated. Again, awesome technique! I like the sounds of it better than the other DEILD method I've heard of, imagining yourself in the dream. This technique suits my learning style/strengths more. Props to you! Oh, and sorry if my question was stupid or something. I'm not exactly the most awake.
~L_D_W~

Thank you, and about the question, it is hard to wake up at the end of every dream, I myself don't wake up more then once or twice unless I fall asleep earlier then usual. I'm not sure I know of any other way to wake up more often then the ways I put in the tutorial, but sleeping earlier then usual (Important, most people on weekends and free days sleep late) and a decent size wbtb early on in the night, that sometimes makes me wake up 5 plus times feels like 10 times sometimes, but thats already in the tutuorial, I just didn't realize that waking up naturally more often would be what most people find difficult in DEILD, I guess I'll put my mind to work to find a diffrent way.

Its not a stupid question, it shows me a way I could improve this technique, else I'd be blind of it because its not something I have trouble with myself. But about 80% of the people I talk to about this method, thats the problem everyone seems to be having, I most likely don't have it because I'm a pretty light sleeper. Altough I would no doubt improve myself if I could find a way to wake up more frequently. I'll think on it and post back if I have any good ideas.

I've been using this technique for 1-2 weeks now and it hasn't been succesful, but I never gave up. Thanks to you LucidDreamGod I had 2 lucids last night.

They lasted only seconds due to noise that my family made in the morning and because of me getting to excited, but otherwise it worked perfectly. I'm going to keep trying and thanks again

Thanks LucidDreamGod, i had one DILD and at least two DEILDs last night. the first DEILD i rubbed my hands together and it turned out my hands in real life were rubbing together lol, but i managed to just imagine them rubbing instead, and KAPOW! i'm in a dream. the second time, i remembered your somersault technique, and i just imagined myself doing a back-spring flip instead (since i can do one in RL), and that also worked great. btw looking at the night sky in a dream is one of the coolest things to look at, all the stars just seem so intense and calming at the same time (there were millions of them just in my field of vision).

*edit* i've been trying this since the first time i've read your tutorial, and you were definitely right about it getting easier to stay still after a dream. your explanation on it really helped me out a lot. thanks again man.

Originally Posted by Meow Mix

I've been using this technique for 1-2 weeks now and it hasn't been succesful, but I never gave up. Thanks to you LucidDreamGod I had 2 lucids last night.

They lasted only seconds due to noise that my family made in the morning and because of me getting to excited, but otherwise it worked perfectly. I'm going to keep trying and thanks again

Good, keep it up disopline is very important.

Originally Posted by ForgottenDream

Thanks LucidDreamGod, i had one DILD and at least two DEILDs last night. the first DEILD i rubbed my hands together and it turned out my hands in real life were rubbing together lol, but i managed to just imagine them rubbing instead, and KAPOW! i'm in a dream. the second time, i remembered your somersault technique, and i just imagined myself doing a back-spring flip instead (since i can do one in RL), and that also worked great. btw looking at the night sky in a dream is one of the coolest things to look at, all the stars just seem so intense and calming at the same time (there were millions of them just in my field of vision).

*edit* i've been trying this since the first time i've read your tutorial, and you were definitely right about it getting easier to stay still after a dream. your explanation on it really helped me out a lot. thanks again man.

There are a number of ways to get in the dream using tactile, sometimes when I feel confident I will just start imagining running through my yard and then secounds later I'll actually be running through my yard, actually that only happened once, and it was the only time I ever ended up someplace else besides my dream bed through a DEILD.


Good luck guys.

....ok so i have a 10 sec alarm to go off every hour after 4hrs of sleep.

Overall I remember dreams better.

Having trouble keeping focus though to even do the technique. It seems like i do it for like 15 seconds and I just black out.

I'm trying different ways to keep more awake a bit longer, like repeating words as I do it...

I'll post if i get any better results.

I've only had one DILD. It was around 3 seconds long and I'm looking to have another LD.

I'm going to try this out and I'll post my results.

update - i had another DEILD last night, and it was insane, it lasted around a minute but it was definitely worth it, if it wasn't for all the noise i would've had another one right after. well this is what i did:
i half woke up realizing i'm dreaming but never really noticing my physical body at all. all sorts of thoughts were swimming through my mind, but i tried to focus on only one thing, which was a door i was trying to imagine, and when i kinda saw a door in my mind's eye i imagined my hand on it, rubbing it with my palm until i felt the texture of the painted wood. i continued feeling the door until i was sure i'm stable within the dream, and i left it up to my subconscious to come up with whatever was on the other side, and MAN was i surprised. it was just a pitch black hallway, and when i took a few steps passed the door, i plunged down moving parallel to the stairs that appeared (although i never touched the stairs, i just sort of flew down right above it). i was terrified at first, until i told myself it's only a dream, but it was very realistic (not only was i scared of the realism, but the dream had a really ominous feel to it.) anyway i had fun flying around the house once i imagined it lit, and i flew around a little outside above the forest.

so what i discovered from this is, the best thing for me is to visualize and use tactile sensation at the same time to boost my chances of becoming lucid. btw, i'm sure it's been said before, but i just wanted to give an example of how i did it, so it can help others out, now that they have a better idea of what to do. i'm sure this works with feeling a wall, or anything, but once you're in the dream you can open the door and see what's on the other side

It work somewhat for me. I enter SP than I went threw a vortex of somewhat. After that I guess I enter my dream un-consciously. But the dream I had was a very very good dream.

Hopefully better results tonight.

I’m not sure if the vortex (swirling colors) was part of my dream or it was something to do with SP. I’m not really sure...

Hmm... I'll definitely give this technique a go. It's usually really easy for me to wake up at a certain time.

Sorry if I am bringing back an old thread but I am gonna try this tonight combined with the water technique to get me up and also I will tell myself I will get up at the right time (also that I will remember the dream) before I go to sleep.

Wish me luck!!!

Tryed it last night but when I woke up I automatically stretched and stuff so I couldnt do it, the water method worked to wake me up at the right time, though!

Any advice on the waking up thing? So I stay still?

Originally Posted by DeLorean Dude

Tryed it last night but when I woke up I automatically stretched and stuff so I couldnt do it, the water method worked to wake me up at the right time, though!

Any advice on the waking up thing? So I stay still?

it takes practice, every time you wake up and move just remind yourself that you'll stay still and eventually you will. when you've accomplished that just lay there and be patient if the dream doesn't come right away.

I am gonna try WBTB along with MILD tonight as suggested by ninja9578, and that wont require me to stay in that state, only not to get too awake, which I dont usually have trouble with (in fact, I have trouble with the opposite! ).

60% success rate with WBTB so I will have a lot more chance of having a LD tonight!

I'll post how it goes in my dream journal thread if anyones interested!

I'm definitely trying this even thought I sleep with a huge ass fan. I usually don't notice it though, since I've had it so long. Hopefully I get some results.

Originally Posted by DeLorean Dude

I am gonna try WBTB along with MILD tonight as suggested by ninja9578, and that wont require me to stay in that state, only not to get too awake, which I dont usually have trouble with (in fact, I have trouble with the opposite! ).

60% success rate with WBTB so I will have a lot more chance of having a LD tonight!

I'll post how it goes in my dream journal thread if anyones interested!

Alright good luck.

Originally Posted by CatBus

I'm definitely trying this even thought I sleep with a huge ass fan. I usually don't notice it though, since I've had it so long. Hopefully I get some results.

Good luck, the fan shouldn't stop you if you don't let it bother you.

First off, I've gotten this to work once before. However, lately I merely lay there and only feel slight vibrations over my head and chest. After 10 minutes or so it all calms down and nothing.

Any advice?

Originally Posted by Denny22

First off, I've gotten this to work once before. However, lately I merely lay there and only feel slight vibrations over my head and chest. After 10 minutes or so it all calms down and nothing.

Any advice?

You could practice your tactile imagination during the day, that could certainly help.

Thanks for the reply, LDG.

I think you're right there. Last night I woke up a number of times and tried it but I just missed that time period of slipping back in as it were. However, I did catch it for an instance. Here's how it went down. I woke up just after a false awakening that I was starting to question and my body started having huge vibrations. All the times before I felt a rolling sensation but this time it was more realistic. I quite literally got out of my bed, and started to fall very slowly forwards. With my eyes still closed I put my arms out and grabbed onto my window. I wasn't scared by it and let it all happen. However, the felling faded and I was back in my bed. I did an RC in case and nothing.

Oh well

But I believe you're right. When I'm in bed after a brief awakening my mind doesn't know what to do. I think tactile imagination is paramount.

Thanks

Wow, after having tried multiple methods of LDing this last month.. Coming back to read this makes sooo much more sense now with a little bit of experience with SP/waking up automatically.

Thanks so much for taking the time to explain in details. This might just be what I needed.

It just seams to make more sense to me now, this seams it could really be easy for me to do just imagining doing it.

What's the water method - drinking litres of water, wouldn't that make me think of my bladder?
Anyway I'll try the somersault thingy tonight if I wake up.